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**feannigvogten** · 08-23-2011, 08:53 PM

There are so many judgements in here about western marriage. If I did they same about polygamy on this forum, I would never hear the end of it.

Can you please elaborate on what you have already said, I am particularly interested in what you have to say about 'Now, if people want to follow the absurd, fabricated notion presented by the shaiyateen of the west that one man, one woman full stop'. What do you mean by this.

And also what do you mean by the following? 'Then what I notice in the west, these girls (and boys) end up in haram situations where they are taken advantage of and abused by either husbands who have the same type of cultural mindset, or by 'boyfriends' who take advantage of these sisters and use them'

Hi,
I really appreciate your taking the time to ask questions and point out certain things that were unclear. I appreciate it, as sometimes I'm not clear in what I'm trying to say. I'll try to clarify, and if there is anything else, please let me know.

Yes I have judged western style marriage or the presented hollywood version of marriage due to the results I see; it is often superficially based, it often ends in divorce (which is common place now), often the husband or wife cheats on the other. These are things that I have seen happen to non-muslim family members, and in the end only breaks men and women emotionally. Remember I'm only criticizing the illusory,fantasy aspect that is associated with marriage (stemming from the west, but anywhere it occurs it is the same).

I believe that saying the only moral thing is for one man to be married to one woman at a time is wrong. If this was the reality, most women would never have a husband, never have children, etc. I don't agree I think that if this notion is made the only option, then it is extremely cruel.

As to the last point, women get abused in this society. They are stepped on and taken advantage of by men, who act like animals because they have also been abused and don't know right from wrong. I'm not sure what else to elaborate, as I believe the previous post from which these lines were quoted explained the context. But let me know if I can do anything else.

08-23-2011, 08:53 PM	#29
feannigvogten Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	There are so many judgements in here about western marriage. If I did they same about polygamy on this forum, I would never hear the end of it. Can you please elaborate on what you have already said, I am particularly interested in what you have to say about 'Now, if people want to follow the absurd, fabricated notion presented by the shaiyateen of the west that one man, one woman full stop'. What do you mean by this. And also what do you mean by the following? 'Then what I notice in the west, these girls (and boys) end up in haram situations where they are taken advantage of and abused by either husbands who have the same type of cultural mindset, or by 'boyfriends' who take advantage of these sisters and use them' Hi, I really appreciate your taking the time to ask questions and point out certain things that were unclear. I appreciate it, as sometimes I'm not clear in what I'm trying to say. I'll try to clarify, and if there is anything else, please let me know. Yes I have judged western style marriage or the presented hollywood version of marriage due to the results I see; it is often superficially based, it often ends in divorce (which is common place now), often the husband or wife cheats on the other. These are things that I have seen happen to non-muslim family members, and in the end only breaks men and women emotionally. Remember I'm only criticizing the illusory,fantasy aspect that is associated with marriage (stemming from the west, but anywhere it occurs it is the same). I believe that saying the only moral thing is for one man to be married to one woman at a time is wrong. If this was the reality, most women would never have a husband, never have children, etc. I don't agree I think that if this notion is made the only option, then it is extremely cruel. As to the last point, women get abused in this society. They are stepped on and taken advantage of by men, who act like animals because they have also been abused and don't know right from wrong. I'm not sure what else to elaborate, as I believe the previous post from which these lines were quoted explained the context. But let me know if I can do anything else.
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