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**feannigvogten** · 08-23-2011, 09:57 PM

I read over and over again the women are honored in Islam. I am trying to open my mind to it all but I cant think of a bigger contradiction on one hand to say women are honored and on the other hand to say that a man can have up to 4 wives, and as some have already said to me they dont even need their 1st wifes consent.

Hi,

Again, I appreciate your effort to learn and see past your own preconceptions. It is highly commendable, and many Muslims should also learn to do this. You are setting a good example for others to follow, and it is a big thing in this world for someone to be such a way.
Another thing is that I highly admire your honesty. Again, most of us lack this, and to see you writing in such a way that is both respectful and honest sets a good example that must be recognized by Muslims especially.

The problem is I think the issue of where honor comes from. The woman has honor, regardless of here worldly state, be she married, single, mother, daughter, etc, it doesn't matter. She has honor and value, because it has been endowed to her by Allah. Regardless, every woman, muslim or non-muslim, has divinely appointed honor. No one one earth can give it to her and no one on earth can take it away.
Her worth and value as a unique individual created by Allah is not in anyway dependent upon a man. This point must be stressed, because it is an alarming truth that there is a notion that woman must do everything just as man does it to be equal. This is a fallacy of feminism as we know it today; it is trying uplift women's state by holding up to the yardstick of masculinity. I reject that completely, and so should any woman, as she is not subject to man, and she does not require his "permission' as it were to be treated or viewed as 'one of the boys'.

08-23-2011, 09:57 PM	#37
feannigvogten Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	I read over and over again the women are honored in Islam. I am trying to open my mind to it all but I cant think of a bigger contradiction on one hand to say women are honored and on the other hand to say that a man can have up to 4 wives, and as some have already said to me they dont even need their 1st wifes consent. Hi, Again, I appreciate your effort to learn and see past your own preconceptions. It is highly commendable, and many Muslims should also learn to do this. You are setting a good example for others to follow, and it is a big thing in this world for someone to be such a way. Another thing is that I highly admire your honesty. Again, most of us lack this, and to see you writing in such a way that is both respectful and honest sets a good example that must be recognized by Muslims especially. The problem is I think the issue of where honor comes from. The woman has honor, regardless of here worldly state, be she married, single, mother, daughter, etc, it doesn't matter. She has honor and value, because it has been endowed to her by Allah. Regardless, every woman, muslim or non-muslim, has divinely appointed honor. No one one earth can give it to her and no one on earth can take it away. Her worth and value as a unique individual created by Allah is not in anyway dependent upon a man. This point must be stressed, because it is an alarming truth that there is a notion that woman must do everything just as man does it to be equal. This is a fallacy of feminism as we know it today; it is trying uplift women's state by holding up to the yardstick of masculinity. I reject that completely, and so should any woman, as she is not subject to man, and she does not require his "permission' as it were to be treated or viewed as 'one of the boys'.
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