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Brother I DID NOT I REPEAT; DID NOT have a problem with those who respectfully disagree, if you dont want to practice this night because you want to opt for what other Scholars say then that is fine, but dont be saying things that are beyond your own comprehension or statements that are attacking the Salaf.

I didn't reply because of the authenticity dispute, rather the accusations you made that the SALAF who held this night to be special are weak references, you said:



To which i replied from Ibn Taymiyyah's Book al-Majmu and Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali's book Lataai'f al-Ma'aarif - go look above.

Then you went on to say:



and:



You should ponder over what you have said.

What you have pasted from Colonel Sahib is what he posted in the other thread regarding Laylathul-Bara'ah. it has nothing to with this discussion because like i said, if you want to respectfully disagree then fine, but know your limits in disagrements - infact take an example from Colonel Sahib's Adabi disagreement.



Bid'ah? it is a loosely used word for this topic, when there are narrations regarding something - be it weak - acting upon that narration doesn't mean your introducing something (Bid'ah)- Yes you can say one is acting upon weak ahadith. You should know and understand terminologies properly and how they should be used.

Secondly; doubt here is not regarding Haram and Halal, its a false argument. it is regarding Fadha'il, infact the safer option here would be to act on the Fadha'il for Ihtiyaat as you dont want to miss out on any special Barakah IF there is. (though you dont have to)



I believe? i quoted YOU statements from the Salaf regarding this night, and i quoted authors where they attributed this view to other Scholars from the Salaf. Atleast have the decency to agree that some Scholars from the salaf did practice this night - especially when i bought proof.

This is a forum, and you will be quoted, furthermore it is not against forum rules (atleast as far as i am aware).

i think there is a general disagreement on ihityaat between you and me. you see ihtiyaat as doing the doubtful thing, i deem it as not doing the doubtful thing. as per the hadith of sahih bukhari:
Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 34, Number 267: Narrated An-Nu'man bin Bashir: The Prophet said "Both legal and illegal things are obvious, and in between them are (suspicious) doubtful matters. So who-ever forsakes those doubtful things lest he may commit a sin, will definitely avoid what is clearly illegal; and who-ever indulges in these (suspicious) doubtful things bravely, is likely to commit what is clearly illegal. Sins are Allah's Hima (i.e. private pasture) and whoever pastures (his sheep) near it, is likely to get in it at any moment."

and regarding this 'debate', i think every muslim has the right to know there are two sides to a coin. if some muslims propagate that its good to go and visit graveyards just on 15th, to do worship just on 15th believing it to be special then there should be muslims who propagate that all of this has no basis in shariah and whole shabaan is virtuous. that way people can decide for themselves.
and i agree it is not a bid'ah. i later realized i shd have stated it when i quoted the other person. its 'doubtful'. sorry for that.

yes please quote me. but not on matters relating to the use of parentheses in english language. when someone puts parentheses they are saying that this word does not mean here what it actually means.
AH