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**Zesavenue** · 04-18-2011, 06:14 AM

What about these?
Ø Killing the apostate?
Sahih Bukhari 9/57:
Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."

Ø No big deal to kill a “kafeer” (infidel)?
Sahih Bukhari 9/50:
Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel)
Nothing wrong with either of those

Really? So basically no freedom of religion in islam? No capital punishment for killing a non muslim?

Thats disgusting.

Endo, Ive followed your 21 posts - and you strike me as a smart guy.

So do you really need answerss to those questions? Your telling me that you have studied all this stuff about Islam, but you came accross those two (partial) ahadeeth and you got confused?

You know that Islam allows christians and jews and sabians (and even the hindus in india) to practice their abomnable religions - so why ask such a question? you know the answer.

You also know that in an Islamic state - the non-muslims have restrictions placed on them and there is a double standard -its a theocracy, what do you expect - If I lived in a christian country, I wouldnt be upset if those christians limited some of my rights as long as I can practice my religion to the fullest - its a theocracy.

You see a theocracy is built on a premiss that this world is temporary, and adhearance to a single religion is most important - thus, those citizens who do not adhear to said religion do not deserve the same privalges as a citizen who does adhere. You have been raised in a culture that constantly promotes this world - and constantly screams freedom, so its no wonder why you would scream of injustices of a theocracy.

...But, I got good news for you, there are no Islamic theocracies on earth today, so you dont have to worry about it.

P.S. - the second hadeeth which you may or may not have quioted without context does not say that a Muslim can kill kafirs willy nilly with no punishment - the Shari punishment for murder is death (or blood ransom, or forgiveness , its up to the victims fam) - so this hadeeth is saying that death is not an option when the victim is a kafir.

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Zesavenue Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	What about these? Ø Killing the apostate? Sahih Bukhari 9/57: Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Ø No big deal to kill a “kafeer” (infidel)? Sahih Bukhari 9/50: Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel) Nothing wrong with either of those Really? So basically no freedom of religion in islam? No capital punishment for killing a non muslim? Thats disgusting. Endo, Ive followed your 21 posts - and you strike me as a smart guy. So do you really need answerss to those questions? Your telling me that you have studied all this stuff about Islam, but you came accross those two (partial) ahadeeth and you got confused? You know that Islam allows christians and jews and sabians (and even the hindus in india) to practice their abomnable religions - so why ask such a question? you know the answer. You also know that in an Islamic state - the non-muslims have restrictions placed on them and there is a double standard -its a theocracy, what do you expect - If I lived in a christian country, I wouldnt be upset if those christians limited some of my rights as long as I can practice my religion to the fullest - its a theocracy. You see a theocracy is built on a premiss that this world is temporary, and adhearance to a single religion is most important - thus, those citizens who do not adhear to said religion do not deserve the same privalges as a citizen who does adhere. You have been raised in a culture that constantly promotes this world - and constantly screams freedom, so its no wonder why you would scream of injustices of a theocracy. ...But, I got good news for you, there are no Islamic theocracies on earth today, so you dont have to worry about it. P.S. - the second hadeeth which you may or may not have quioted without context does not say that a Muslim can kill kafirs willy nilly with no punishment - the Shari punishment for murder is death (or blood ransom, or forgiveness , its up to the victims fam) - so this hadeeth is saying that death is not an option when the victim is a kafir.
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