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**seosoftseo** · 04-18-2011, 06:35 AM

What about these?
Ø Killing the apostate?
Sahih Bukhari 9/57:
Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."

Ø No big deal to kill a “kafeer” (infidel)?
Sahih Bukhari 9/50:
Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel)
Nothing wrong with either of those

Really? So basically no freedom of religion in islam? No capital punishment for killing a non muslim?

Thats disgusting.

As brother abdulhaq said that its irrational to look into a religion through the lenses of your intellect as tthe intellect which is of-course adoptive in nature , cannot be taken as standard. How many times have you objected to the internal dilemma of your own self that you can not breath nitrogen instead of Oxygen? Ofcourse you would not object to that , though its a sort of unjust in its core that you have been made u in a way that you can respire Oxygen only. There are certain laws of nature which are binding on every human and they carry a sense of discrimination.
As far as apostasy in Islam , there is a difference of opinion on what an " Apostate" is.

1. This is a matter that only a ruler or a judge that is authorized by a ruler can decide its decession

2. No judgment to be made before a careful investigation occur for this matter

3. If it is proven then whoever apostaes openly should be questioned first then all his doubts and questions to be answered and clarified then he needs to be asked to repent from what he did.

4. This ruling if to happen cannot be applied by people because only a ruler or a judge that is authorized by the ruler can do so.

5. If he insists on it then a judgment is based on its case like any other case because what he did is considered a crime according to Islam therefore the law needs to eb employed just like any other law. The punishment for such crime is execuation and on this point please read the following topic:

6. there is a big difference between Murtad and Muharib. the fisrt is someone who is muslim then he becomes not Muslim in purpose while the second is someone who terrorify others in roads with weapon and so on.

04-18-2011, 06:35 AM	#38
seosoftseo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 597 Senior Member	What about these? Ø Killing the apostate? Sahih Bukhari 9/57: Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Ø No big deal to kill a “kafeer” (infidel)? Sahih Bukhari 9/50: Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel) Nothing wrong with either of those Really? So basically no freedom of religion in islam? No capital punishment for killing a non muslim? Thats disgusting. As brother abdulhaq said that its irrational to look into a religion through the lenses of your intellect as tthe intellect which is of-course adoptive in nature , cannot be taken as standard. How many times have you objected to the internal dilemma of your own self that you can not breath nitrogen instead of Oxygen? Ofcourse you would not object to that , though its a sort of unjust in its core that you have been made u in a way that you can respire Oxygen only. There are certain laws of nature which are binding on every human and they carry a sense of discrimination. As far as apostasy in Islam , there is a difference of opinion on what an " Apostate" is. 1. This is a matter that only a ruler or a judge that is authorized by a ruler can decide its decession 2. No judgment to be made before a careful investigation occur for this matter 3. If it is proven then whoever apostaes openly should be questioned first then all his doubts and questions to be answered and clarified then he needs to be asked to repent from what he did. 4. This ruling if to happen cannot be applied by people because only a ruler or a judge that is authorized by the ruler can do so. 5. If he insists on it then a judgment is based on its case like any other case because what he did is considered a crime according to Islam therefore the law needs to eb employed just like any other law. The punishment for such crime is execuation and on this point please read the following topic: 6. there is a big difference between Murtad and Muharib. the fisrt is someone who is muslim then he becomes not Muslim in purpose while the second is someone who terrorify others in roads with weapon and so on.
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