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**panholio** · 07-04-2011, 01:43 PM

You can't convert to a religion just based on reading their Scripture, you might read something with your understanding and think what a great religion, and then come to find out no muslim understands it that way. I have several other books that I must go through first.

This muslim i know recommended several books for me. So I plan and reading them first before making any decision. I have them all. The books are:

1. reliance of the traveler, which is a book on Islamic Law.
2. I also got Tafsir Jalalayn, which he told me is one of the most authoritative commentries of the quran.
3. I have two book on Islamic belief, the Creed of Imam Tahawi and also Fiqh Akbar explained.
4. Also have the compendium of Knowledge and Wisdom, which is a commentary on some hadith of Muhammad.
5. The Way of Abu Madyan a book on sufism.

Just skimming through these books it seems like it will take a while to get through them. I know its alot, he recommended some shorter books, but I told him, I want to read books that Muslims actually read and refer on a regular basis.

I want to get through all these before making a decision. This muslim told me these books will give me a thorough picture of Islam. So we will see......

Greetings.
I do NOT recommend those books for the purpose of understanding Islam for conversion.
I assume you know who the prophet Muhammad (saaw) is, correct?
Do you know who God is and that He calls himself Allah?
And do you know what the Quran is?

If you have information about these, then you have enough information to convert to Islam.

You do NOT need to study Reliance of the Traveller or Tafsir al Jalalayn, both of which are specific scientific analyses of the Islam in two disicplines: fiqh and Quranic science.

Ultimately, conversion to Islam is a matter of the HEART which the mind agrees with.
Ultimately, the heart has to submit to what the mind finds to be reasonable and sensible. No matter how much information the mind examines, if the heart does not submit, there is no conversion. So the matter is internal for the individual once this basic knowledge about Islam is acquired.

And that's the point of Islam being consistent with human nature.
Human nature can be understood rationally and approaching by common sense found in any sane person. We humans have needs and instincts: we need food, water, sleep, oxygen, and have instincts of procreation, survival, religiosity. And from these, inclinations emerge: sexual and familial inclinations from procreation for instance, spirituality, reverence, adulation from religiosity for instance.

How these are managed should be consistent with human nature. In contrast, mismanagment of these results in being inconsistent with human nature. To repress sexual inclination by remaining celebate can result in denying having a family, and can result in sexual perversions and chaos. And of course such celibacy cannot be the standard for an entire society.

more late insha Allah

07-04-2011, 01:43 PM	#19
panholio Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 409 Senior Member	You can't convert to a religion just based on reading their Scripture, you might read something with your understanding and think what a great religion, and then come to find out no muslim understands it that way. I have several other books that I must go through first. This muslim i know recommended several books for me. So I plan and reading them first before making any decision. I have them all. The books are: 1. reliance of the traveler, which is a book on Islamic Law. 2. I also got Tafsir Jalalayn, which he told me is one of the most authoritative commentries of the quran. 3. I have two book on Islamic belief, the Creed of Imam Tahawi and also Fiqh Akbar explained. 4. Also have the compendium of Knowledge and Wisdom, which is a commentary on some hadith of Muhammad. 5. The Way of Abu Madyan a book on sufism. Just skimming through these books it seems like it will take a while to get through them. I know its alot, he recommended some shorter books, but I told him, I want to read books that Muslims actually read and refer on a regular basis. I want to get through all these before making a decision. This muslim told me these books will give me a thorough picture of Islam. So we will see...... Greetings. I do NOT recommend those books for the purpose of understanding Islam for conversion. I assume you know who the prophet Muhammad (saaw) is, correct? Do you know who God is and that He calls himself Allah? And do you know what the Quran is? If you have information about these, then you have enough information to convert to Islam. You do NOT need to study Reliance of the Traveller or Tafsir al Jalalayn, both of which are specific scientific analyses of the Islam in two disicplines: fiqh and Quranic science. Ultimately, conversion to Islam is a matter of the HEART which the mind agrees with. Ultimately, the heart has to submit to what the mind finds to be reasonable and sensible. No matter how much information the mind examines, if the heart does not submit, there is no conversion. So the matter is internal for the individual once this basic knowledge about Islam is acquired. And that's the point of Islam being consistent with human nature. Human nature can be understood rationally and approaching by common sense found in any sane person. We humans have needs and instincts: we need food, water, sleep, oxygen, and have instincts of procreation, survival, religiosity. And from these, inclinations emerge: sexual and familial inclinations from procreation for instance, spirituality, reverence, adulation from religiosity for instance. How these are managed should be consistent with human nature. In contrast, mismanagment of these results in being inconsistent with human nature. To repress sexual inclination by remaining celebate can result in denying having a family, and can result in sexual perversions and chaos. And of course such celibacy cannot be the standard for an entire society. more late insha Allah
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