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Old 04-03-2011, 03:21 AM   #15
Uzezqelj

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Assalam u Alikum wr wb

I see the importance of putting Wahabies in their place, certainly that is something all Muslims should be aware off, but debating on these issues again and again is like whipping a dead horse thinking it might get up and start running. I have been in the Deobandi/Barelvi/Wahabi field for years now, and i think i have enough Ammo to take them down.

We must focus on other things. Like research institutions, Universities, community building etc etc. I mean lets Take Toronto, my home city for 4.5 years now. I have been to all the libraries that exist with the exception of a few and every book almost on Islam is by deviants like Manji, Hirshi Ali, Ibn Warraq, Fatah, Sardar or people who are sympathetic to Islam like Karen or Hans etc, no one that can be said to present orthodoxy. In the political section Islam began on September 11,2001, Osama, suicide bombing, Jihad etc. I could only imagine the circumstances of someone going into the library looking for something positive to read about Islam. I mean dont get me wrong there are rebuttals of Christianity as well, but there are counter rebuts as well. Almost no rebuttals for Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism etc except for Militant atheists like Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens etc.
All the Mosque uncles are fighting for who will be the president of the mosque, Gujrati, Pakistani, Guyanese, Arab, Somali etc. We have no programmes to work for the community infact there is no return. We have 100;s of Muslims working cash jobs and getting Social services money. I mean there is a reason why we are seen as parasites in these western communities. Dont get me wrong, we have very well educated individuals but the overall community is in real bad shape. I mean just visit the Muslim buildings in Toronto. I have done security for a few and trust me i know what conspires there. There are almost no Programs for new Muslims and their accommodation into the Muslim society. Everyone is all Merry and cheering when someone becomes a Muslim in the mosque....All Takbirs and Allah u Akbar and hugs and advices, but when it comes to real things, no one is to be found except for a few people. We have very few people who can rebut the kind of stuff which is polluting the minds of our generation here. There is no audit for the expenses of our mosques. When someone goes to claim zakat he is given a feeble amount not even worth mentioning whereas thousand$ are taken every month.

We have Neo-Nazi groups popping all over the place, accussing Islam for every evil that exists is a norm. We have no Muslim defense league, we have idiots like Reza aslan and Mona El Tahawi who have no idea about Islam and will deny any and everything about Islam with the argument of not every one of 1.5 billion Muslims believe this. What institutions are preparing leaders? Where are our social scientists. Trust me we have a 25 year supply of Engeneers, doctors etc, no people working in Sociology departments etc.

All these discussions on theology, fiqh, hadeeth etc etc were taking place when we had a caliphate, we had our lands secured. All the great Ulama one can think of were living in Islamic Caliphates from the 4 Imams to the Muhaditheen to the Mufasireen etc etc. There is a reason why Sahaba(ra) didnt have time for these things because they were knew the basics and they were working for establishing Islam in its essence. We on the other hand are discussing issues and fighting when there is not even a basic Islamic structure in the world today.

Sorry, i am not saying i am any different then what i have mentioning, but there is a time and place for things, and i dont think we have the privilege to spend hours and hours on these issues when the Ummah is being slaughtered.

Wa Salam
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