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**Phassetus** · 07-25-2011, 01:20 AM

"Those who believe and do righteous deeds are the best of the creation (Quran 98:7)" was revealed, the Messenger of Allah (PBUH&HF) said to Ali:

"They are you and your Shia." He continued: "O Ali! (On the day of Judgment) you and your Shia will come toward Allah well-pleased and well-pleasing, and your enemies will come angry with their head forced up. Ali said: "Who are my enemies?" The Prophet (PBUH&HF) replied: "He who disassociates himself from you and curses you. And glad tiding to those who reach first under the shadow of al-'Arsh on the day of resurrection." Ali asked: "Who are they, O the Messenger of Allah?" He replied: "Your Shia, O Ali, and those who love you."

Sunni references:

- al-Hafidh Jamaluddin al-Dharandi, on the authority of Ibn Abbas

- al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar, Ch. 11, section 1, pp 246-247

"O Ali! (On the day of Judgment) you and your Shia will come toward Allah well-pleased and well-pleasing, and there will come to Him your enemies angry and stiff-necked (i.e., their head forced up).

Sunni references:

- al-Tabarani, on the authority of Imam Ali

- al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p236

All of the twelver Shia sects claim to follow 'Ali (ra) the matter of the fact is the prophet SAWS told us to follow his companions and you'll find that he SAWS does this to praise and compliment his companions, of course the Twelver Shiites take anything that praises 'Ali (ra) and reject the rest out of pure hypocrisy, for example in the Sahih we read:

وروى الإمام أحمد وغيره عن حذيفة قال: كنا عند النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم جلوساً فقال: ((إني لا أدري ما قدر بقائي فيكم فاقتدوا باللذين من بعدي وأشار إلى أبي بكر وعمر وتمسكوا بعهد عمار وما حدثكم ابن مسعود فصدقوه)) Imam Ahmad and others narrated from Hudhayfah bin al Yaman that he said: we were sitting with the Prophet PBUH and he said: I do not know how much longer I will remain with you, so take these two as an example (to follow) after me and he pointed to Abu Bakr and Umar, hold on to Ammar and what ever Ibn Masood narrates (from me) believe him.

source: Narrated by Ahmad, Ibn Majah, ibn Hayyan, Tirmithy, Ibn Abdul Barr, Ibn al mulaqin, Ibn Hajar said it has a good chain and al Albani said SAHIH.

So the Hadiths which you quoted dear sister this is the prophet SAWS telling 'Ali (kw) that you and those who follow you will be in heaven, Thius does not refer to the deviant sects called the Shi'ites especially the Twelvers but it refers to the Muslims who follow 'Ali ibn abi Talib (ra) from the Sahih Hadiths not the fabrications and lies of the Ghulat.

Also remember what the prophet SAWS told 'Ali (ra):

Here Ali (ra) is talking about the two deviant groups, The Shia who love him severely and raise him above his level by claiming that the Imams are better than the Prophets and the Imams are infallible and the Imams know the future, The other group are the Nawasib who have hatred for the family of the Prophet PBUH such as al-Hajjaj bin yusuf al-Thaqafi.
فيك مثل من عيسى أبغضته اليهود حتى بهتوا أمه وأحبته النصارى حتى أنزلوه بالمنزلة التي ليست به ثم قال : يهلك في رجلان محب مفرط يقرظني بما ليس في ومبغض يحمله شنآني على أن يبهتني
الراوي: علي بن أبي طالب المحدث: أحمد شاكر - المصدر: مسند أحمد - الصفحة أو الرقم: 2/355
خلاصة حكم المحدث: إسناده حسن The Prophet PBUH told Ali(ra): "You have an example from Isa (PBUH), the Jews hated him so they wronged his mother and the Christians loved him so they raised him above his status", Ali then said: "Two individuals will be tortured (In Hell) because of me, one who loves me extremely who attributes things to me which do not rightfully belong to me, and a hater who hates me."

Narrator: Ali ibn abi Talib.
Source: Musnad Ahmad 2/355.
Grading: Ahmad Shakir said "Hadith has a good chain of narrators."
قال علي يهلك في رجلان مفرط في حبي و مفرط في بغضي
الراوي: أبو حبرة شيحة بن عبدالله الضبعي المحدث: الألباني - المصدر: تخريج كتاب السنة - الصفحة أو الرقم: 984
خلاصة حكم المحدث: إسناده حسن Ali (ra) said: "Two individuals will be tortured because of me, one who loves me severely and one who hates me severely."

Narrator: Abu Habrah Sheehah bin Abdullah al-Dabi'ee.
Source: Takhreej Kitab al-Sunnah #984.
Grading: al-Albani said "Hadith has a good chain of narrators."

07-25-2011, 01:20 AM	#27
Phassetus Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	"Those who believe and do righteous deeds are the best of the creation (Quran 98:7)" was revealed, the Messenger of Allah (PBUH&HF) said to Ali: "They are you and your Shia." He continued: "O Ali! (On the day of Judgment) you and your Shia will come toward Allah well-pleased and well-pleasing, and your enemies will come angry with their head forced up. Ali said: "Who are my enemies?" The Prophet (PBUH&HF) replied: "He who disassociates himself from you and curses you. And glad tiding to those who reach first under the shadow of al-'Arsh on the day of resurrection." Ali asked: "Who are they, O the Messenger of Allah?" He replied: "Your Shia, O Ali, and those who love you." Sunni references: - al-Hafidh Jamaluddin al-Dharandi, on the authority of Ibn Abbas - al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar, Ch. 11, section 1, pp 246-247 "O Ali! (On the day of Judgment) you and your Shia will come toward Allah well-pleased and well-pleasing, and there will come to Him your enemies angry and stiff-necked (i.e., their head forced up). Sunni references: - al-Tabarani, on the authority of Imam Ali - al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p236 All of the twelver Shia sects claim to follow 'Ali (ra) the matter of the fact is the prophet SAWS told us to follow his companions and you'll find that he SAWS does this to praise and compliment his companions, of course the Twelver Shiites take anything that praises 'Ali (ra) and reject the rest out of pure hypocrisy, for example in the Sahih we read: وروى الإمام أحمد وغيره عن حذيفة قال: كنا عند النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم جلوساً فقال: ((إني لا أدري ما قدر بقائي فيكم فاقتدوا باللذين من بعدي وأشار إلى أبي بكر وعمر وتمسكوا بعهد عمار وما حدثكم ابن مسعود فصدقوه)) Imam Ahmad and others narrated from Hudhayfah bin al Yaman that he said: we were sitting with the Prophet PBUH and he said: I do not know how much longer I will remain with you, so take these two as an example (to follow) after me and he pointed to Abu Bakr and Umar, hold on to Ammar and what ever Ibn Masood narrates (from me) believe him. source: Narrated by Ahmad, Ibn Majah, ibn Hayyan, Tirmithy, Ibn Abdul Barr, Ibn al mulaqin, Ibn Hajar said it has a good chain and al Albani said SAHIH. So the Hadiths which you quoted dear sister this is the prophet SAWS telling 'Ali (kw) that you and those who follow you will be in heaven, Thius does not refer to the deviant sects called the Shi'ites especially the Twelvers but it refers to the Muslims who follow 'Ali ibn abi Talib (ra) from the Sahih Hadiths not the fabrications and lies of the Ghulat. Also remember what the prophet SAWS told 'Ali (ra): Here Ali (ra) is talking about the two deviant groups, The Shia who love him severely and raise him above his level by claiming that the Imams are better than the Prophets and the Imams are infallible and the Imams know the future, The other group are the Nawasib who have hatred for the family of the Prophet PBUH such as al-Hajjaj bin yusuf al-Thaqafi. فيك مثل من عيسى أبغضته اليهود حتى بهتوا أمه وأحبته النصارى حتى أنزلوه بالمنزلة التي ليست به ثم قال : يهلك في رجلان محب مفرط يقرظني بما ليس في ومبغض يحمله شنآني على أن يبهتني الراوي: علي بن أبي طالب المحدث: أحمد شاكر - المصدر: مسند أحمد - الصفحة أو الرقم: 2/355 خلاصة حكم المحدث: إسناده حسن The Prophet PBUH told Ali(ra): "You have an example from Isa (PBUH), the Jews hated him so they wronged his mother and the Christians loved him so they raised him above his status", Ali then said: "Two individuals will be tortured (In Hell) because of me, one who loves me extremely who attributes things to me which do not rightfully belong to me, and a hater who hates me." Narrator: Ali ibn abi Talib. Source: Musnad Ahmad 2/355. Grading: Ahmad Shakir said "Hadith has a good chain of narrators." قال علي يهلك في رجلان مفرط في حبي و مفرط في بغضي الراوي: أبو حبرة شيحة بن عبدالله الضبعي المحدث: الألباني - المصدر: تخريج كتاب السنة - الصفحة أو الرقم: 984 خلاصة حكم المحدث: إسناده حسن Ali (ra) said: "Two individuals will be tortured because of me, one who loves me severely and one who hates me severely." Narrator: Abu Habrah Sheehah bin Abdullah al-Dabi'ee. Source: Takhreej Kitab al-Sunnah #984. Grading: al-Albani said "Hadith has a good chain of narrators."
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