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**soryalomop** · 07-22-2011, 04:47 AM

As for praying, I have never experienced such a thing. We prayed back in the hostess's cabinet while standing.

Alhamdulillah, that's good for you.
"Unfortunately"; i bear witness in front of Allah that it happened the opposite to me the 100% of times I politely tried to pray on their flights.

The policy might be about people haphazardly entering that area and standing there for a long while without being supervised; who knows what some freaks can do to the food located in that cabinet. So, they fear a lot these kind of dangerous situations.

Please rest assured that I'm not a freak nor I haphazardly entered into any area.

I'll relate you what happened.

First time:
Flight MADINA MUNAWWARAH - Istanbul.

A German brothers wakes me up saying Fajr time entered, we need to pray Salah. I stand up, move towards the toilets, I "raise" my long sleeves up to the elbows waiting for the bathroom to be empty, and a steward approaches me without even me saying anything. He asks me what I'm gonna doing and if I have intention to pray and that I cannot pray nor take wudu'. I didn't even ask him, I remain amazed. He argues that there is no enough water on air flights for people wudu' and that what will happen if people see me praying, then all will want to pray.. I objected that a lot of brothers don't have any problem in praying on non-Muslim airlines and I cannot pray on TURKISH Airlines? He insists forbidding me to pray while standing. Along side, he precises that "I'm Muslim too". "Alhamdulillah, I'm not saying anything about this", I reply. After a few minutes of discussion I ask him who his responsible is, so I go to talk with this hostess lady who tells me the same: "it's against Turkish Airlines policy". I get very angry but comply with their instructions, pray while sitting, and alhamdulillah when we land off there was still time for Salah and I prayed at the airport.

Second time.
Flight Istanbul - Dubai.

Maghrib time enters. I stand up, already have wudu', and politely ask a steward for a convenient place in which praying. He sais it's not allowed, it's not safe, it's for my own safety and on top of that "it's against Turkish Airlines policy". He says I can pray while sitting. I tell him it's not valid and that I will only take a couple of minutes: will be fast.. He says policy forbids to stay in that area (normal corridor area in front of toilets. "So I cannot even stay here talking with you?".
I end up having to pray my Maghrib Salah while sitting and having to make it up as soon as I arrived at Dubai airport.

The result is that I have the firm intention not to give anymore my money to Turkish Airlines nor use their "services" anymore, insha'Allah.

May Allah guide secularists, and if there is no guidance for them, may Allah destroy them.

07-22-2011, 04:47 AM	#15
soryalomop Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 617 Senior Member	As for praying, I have never experienced such a thing. We prayed back in the hostess's cabinet while standing. Alhamdulillah, that's good for you. "Unfortunately"; i bear witness in front of Allah that it happened the opposite to me the 100% of times I politely tried to pray on their flights. The policy might be about people haphazardly entering that area and standing there for a long while without being supervised; who knows what some freaks can do to the food located in that cabinet. So, they fear a lot these kind of dangerous situations. Please rest assured that I'm not a freak nor I haphazardly entered into any area. I'll relate you what happened. First time: Flight MADINA MUNAWWARAH - Istanbul. A German brothers wakes me up saying Fajr time entered, we need to pray Salah. I stand up, move towards the toilets, I "raise" my long sleeves up to the elbows waiting for the bathroom to be empty, and a steward approaches me without even me saying anything. He asks me what I'm gonna doing and if I have intention to pray and that I cannot pray nor take wudu'. I didn't even ask him, I remain amazed. He argues that there is no enough water on air flights for people wudu' and that what will happen if people see me praying, then all will want to pray.. I objected that a lot of brothers don't have any problem in praying on non-Muslim airlines and I cannot pray on TURKISH Airlines? He insists forbidding me to pray while standing. Along side, he precises that "I'm Muslim too". "Alhamdulillah, I'm not saying anything about this", I reply. After a few minutes of discussion I ask him who his responsible is, so I go to talk with this hostess lady who tells me the same: "it's against Turkish Airlines policy". I get very angry but comply with their instructions, pray while sitting, and alhamdulillah when we land off there was still time for Salah and I prayed at the airport. Second time. Flight Istanbul - Dubai. Maghrib time enters. I stand up, already have wudu', and politely ask a steward for a convenient place in which praying. He sais it's not allowed, it's not safe, it's for my own safety and on top of that "it's against Turkish Airlines policy". He says I can pray while sitting. I tell him it's not valid and that I will only take a couple of minutes: will be fast.. He says policy forbids to stay in that area (normal corridor area in front of toilets. "So I cannot even stay here talking with you?". I end up having to pray my Maghrib Salah while sitting and having to make it up as soon as I arrived at Dubai airport. The result is that I have the firm intention not to give anymore my money to Turkish Airlines nor use their "services" anymore, insha'Allah. May Allah guide secularists, and if there is no guidance for them, may Allah destroy them.
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