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**propolo** · 07-21-2011, 03:01 AM

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Jazak'Allah khayr for that. Where did you pull that from?

he quoted ibn taimiyyahs majmu fatawa as one reference plus saheeh muslim as the other reference.

The hadeeth is well known as it is the basis of one of the shuroot of takfeer, that if someone says or does kufr akbar by mistake then takfeer isnt pronounced. The other two shuroot (conditions) are 2 that it wasnt by force (the evidence is the sahaba who was forced to speak ill of the prophet salallahu alayhi wassalam and the prophet approving of this) and 3 that he didnt say it out of ignorance (due to the man who wanted his body to be ground up into dust out of fear of allahs punishment).

07-21-2011, 03:01 AM	#8
propolo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	J Jazak'Allah khayr for that. Where did you pull that from? he quoted ibn taimiyyahs majmu fatawa as one reference plus saheeh muslim as the other reference. The hadeeth is well known as it is the basis of one of the shuroot of takfeer, that if someone says or does kufr akbar by mistake then takfeer isnt pronounced. The other two shuroot (conditions) are 2 that it wasnt by force (the evidence is the sahaba who was forced to speak ill of the prophet salallahu alayhi wassalam and the prophet approving of this) and 3 that he didnt say it out of ignorance (due to the man who wanted his body to be ground up into dust out of fear of allahs punishment).
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