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**12ZHeWZa** · 05-05-2011, 07:28 AM

By enlightenment I mean spiritual enlightenment, not the renaissance enlightenment.

And by spiritual enlightenment I mean MCTB Enlightenment (as recognized by the Hardcore Dharma Movement), Zen Enlightenment, Buddhist Enlightenment, Jain Enlightenment, Hindu Enlightenment.

Sometimes called: Bodhi, Nibbana, Moksha, Satori or Kensho etc.

What does Islam think about the phenomenon of Enlightenment? (not the people who claim enlightenment but the phenomenon of enlightenment), assuming of course, it exists.

the Islamic concept and the budhist/hindu concepts of enlightenment are different - so its hard to say yes or no to yuor question

For the budhust, enlightenment is becoming one with the universe - chakras aligning and karma being understood fully.

The Islamic version of enlightenment is internal and external - interanly, the enlightened Muslim defeats all nafs and worldly desires, transforming those nafs into nafs ul mumaina - meaning that rather than your nafs desiring a haraam thing, they only desire the halal - instead of lusting over women, they lust over salaat or dhikr. Externally this enlightenment manifests itself in complete tawhid - when one realizes that all, good and bad, comes from Allah - that one has already been alotted his share in this world and nothing can increase or decrease it except Allah - when realizing that there is no Might and Power except for Allah - then thios person has knowledge of both self and creation - even if the particulars of the creation are not revealed to him.

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12ZHeWZa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	By enlightenment I mean spiritual enlightenment, not the renaissance enlightenment. And by spiritual enlightenment I mean MCTB Enlightenment (as recognized by the Hardcore Dharma Movement), Zen Enlightenment, Buddhist Enlightenment, Jain Enlightenment, Hindu Enlightenment. Sometimes called: Bodhi, Nibbana, Moksha, Satori or Kensho etc. What does Islam think about the phenomenon of Enlightenment? (not the people who claim enlightenment but the phenomenon of enlightenment), assuming of course, it exists. the Islamic concept and the budhist/hindu concepts of enlightenment are different - so its hard to say yes or no to yuor question For the budhust, enlightenment is becoming one with the universe - chakras aligning and karma being understood fully. The Islamic version of enlightenment is internal and external - interanly, the enlightened Muslim defeats all nafs and worldly desires, transforming those nafs into nafs ul mumaina - meaning that rather than your nafs desiring a haraam thing, they only desire the halal - instead of lusting over women, they lust over salaat or dhikr. Externally this enlightenment manifests itself in complete tawhid - when one realizes that all, good and bad, comes from Allah - that one has already been alotted his share in this world and nothing can increase or decrease it except Allah - when realizing that there is no Might and Power except for Allah - then thios person has knowledge of both self and creation - even if the particulars of the creation are not revealed to him.
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