also on this subject, someone raised earlier that brothers live off benefits? i dont think that is haraam if it is genuine but they are actively looking for work and are trying there best? unless they are not taking work on purpose and staying on benefits just because they cant be bothered. It does shock me being in bradford how many practicing brothers are claiming every beenfit under the sun and not working, and yet being bale to attend all namaz's in mosques etc. and go to madrasah etc. they are probably more learned than u and i but we dont have the time to do all the extras due to working full time. Surely this isnt allowed? to solely live off benefits? just because u earn more and get more such as frree house than you would do if you worked.. hence limiting work for 16 hours so beenfits dont stop?