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**ropinirole** · 07-16-2011, 11:25 PM

The apparent meaning of the hadith is very clear. "your" interpretation is in need of assumptions. I hope you can admit that, at least for yourself.

There aren't any proofs against this matter. The ahadith that you mentioned doesn't forbid it. The scholars reached this conclusion based on sound qiyas. Qiyas is one source of legislation.

You keep writing about staying away from the doubtful if you are in doubt then leave it, but leave the rest of us who don't harbour any doubts alone. The scholars who allowed it are probably more God fearing than you, don't you think?

and what about those scholars who did not allow it?u shd read my answer again for what Imam Albani says regarding the Ijma on this one. the word scholar should not be unanimous with piety. otherwise you wouldnt have barelwis, ahlul bid'ah etc.
and i didnt write my view because i wanted to force people to change their thinking. do as you please. i wanted to learn how certain ulema have allowed it and thats that. and also to show the other side of the coin to those reading about this. someone asked 'whats the ruling regarding esal - e - sawab'...well they should know certain ulema have allowed it and certain ulema have not. and why.
regarding leaving you alone, well you can do as you please no compulsion from me. Assalaomalaikum

07-16-2011, 11:25 PM	#19
ropinirole Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	The apparent meaning of the hadith is very clear. "your" interpretation is in need of assumptions. I hope you can admit that, at least for yourself. There aren't any proofs against this matter. The ahadith that you mentioned doesn't forbid it. The scholars reached this conclusion based on sound qiyas. Qiyas is one source of legislation. You keep writing about staying away from the doubtful if you are in doubt then leave it, but leave the rest of us who don't harbour any doubts alone. The scholars who allowed it are probably more God fearing than you, don't you think? and what about those scholars who did not allow it?u shd read my answer again for what Imam Albani says regarding the Ijma on this one. the word scholar should not be unanimous with piety. otherwise you wouldnt have barelwis, ahlul bid'ah etc. and i didnt write my view because i wanted to force people to change their thinking. do as you please. i wanted to learn how certain ulema have allowed it and thats that. and also to show the other side of the coin to those reading about this. someone asked 'whats the ruling regarding esal - e - sawab'...well they should know certain ulema have allowed it and certain ulema have not. and why. regarding leaving you alone, well you can do as you please no compulsion from me. Assalaomalaikum
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