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**freeringtonesioo** · 10-07-2010, 10:19 PM

Keep in mind that Sayyidina Ibn Ata'illah al-Iskandari (rahmatu'Allahi alayh) was an inheritor of the Shathili Tariqa by Sayyidina Abu Al-Abbas Al-Mursi (qaddas'Allahu sirrahu), the main inheritor of Sayyidina Al-Imam Abu Al-Hasan Ali Al-Shathili, qaddas'Allahu sirrah. So Ibn Ata'illah's statement in regards to this is not to be taken lightly.

Ok lets not take it lightly, then what? Should we take the statement of Ibn Daqiq Al-'Eid lightly who was more close to Ibn Abdussalaam than Shaykh Ibn Ata'ullah, who was not the student of Ibn Abdussalaam. History of claims of sufiyah shows that they are not to be taken seriously in matters related to "telling stories" and "attributing something to someone as far as the thing is good" and "defence of their tareeqah and there heroes". The point is, there isn't any good evidence to support the theory of Ibn Ata'ullah, and to prefer it over the tradition reported by Ibn Daqeeq Al-Eid and from him it was narrated by several scholars which include likes of Dhahabi and Ibn Sayyid An-Naas.

As you have mentioned Abul Abbas Al-Mursi here, then let me tell you his view regarding Afeef Ad-Deen At-Tilimsani, another one like Ibn Arabi. Ibn Taymiyyah, in his "Madhhab Al-Ittehadiyeen" [Majoo' Rasail (4/76)], narrates from Kamalud-Deen Ibn Al-Maraghi, that he was once with Abul Abbas Ash-Shadhilee, so he heard him saying regarding At-Tilimsani and his likes [this include Ibn Arabi], "these are the Kuffar. They believe that the creation is itself Creator".

وحدثني أيضاً كمال الدين أنه اجتمع بالشيخ أبي العباس الشاذلي تلميذ الشيخ أبي الحسن فقال عن التلمساني: هؤلاء كفار هؤلاء يعتقدون أن الصنعة هي الصانع

Wassalam alaikum

10-07-2010, 10:19 PM	#38
freeringtonesioo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	Keep in mind that Sayyidina Ibn Ata'illah al-Iskandari (rahmatu'Allahi alayh) was an inheritor of the Shathili Tariqa by Sayyidina Abu Al-Abbas Al-Mursi (qaddas'Allahu sirrahu), the main inheritor of Sayyidina Al-Imam Abu Al-Hasan Ali Al-Shathili, qaddas'Allahu sirrah. So Ibn Ata'illah's statement in regards to this is not to be taken lightly. Ok lets not take it lightly, then what? Should we take the statement of Ibn Daqiq Al-'Eid lightly who was more close to Ibn Abdussalaam than Shaykh Ibn Ata'ullah, who was not the student of Ibn Abdussalaam. History of claims of sufiyah shows that they are not to be taken seriously in matters related to "telling stories" and "attributing something to someone as far as the thing is good" and "defence of their tareeqah and there heroes". The point is, there isn't any good evidence to support the theory of Ibn Ata'ullah, and to prefer it over the tradition reported by Ibn Daqeeq Al-Eid and from him it was narrated by several scholars which include likes of Dhahabi and Ibn Sayyid An-Naas. As you have mentioned Abul Abbas Al-Mursi here, then let me tell you his view regarding Afeef Ad-Deen At-Tilimsani, another one like Ibn Arabi. Ibn Taymiyyah, in his "Madhhab Al-Ittehadiyeen" [Majoo' Rasail (4/76)], narrates from Kamalud-Deen Ibn Al-Maraghi, that he was once with Abul Abbas Ash-Shadhilee, so he heard him saying regarding At-Tilimsani and his likes [this include Ibn Arabi], "these are the Kuffar. They believe that the creation is itself Creator". وحدثني أيضاً كمال الدين أنه اجتمع بالشيخ أبي العباس الشاذلي تلميذ الشيخ أبي الحسن فقال عن التلمساني: هؤلاء كفار هؤلاء يعتقدون أن الصنعة هي الصانع Wassalam alaikum
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