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**Virosponna** · 07-16-2011, 07:15 PM

it was posted in the original post.
'Perhaps their punishment will be lightened through it as long as the branches do not dry up.'

how is this not a dua?it is true the sentence does not invoke Allah (SWT) directly by saying Allahumma or any similar phrase but you can see the intention of the Prophet clearly that the punishment be lightened because of his action of placing the branches and 'hoping' Allah (SWT) will lessen the punishment till the branches dry up. this 'hope' is dua.

I didn't see it sorry. Anyway, the word perhaps (ar. la'alla) doesn't indiciate that it's a du'a. Thats a possible interpretation, even though its far fetched. The obvious meaning of the hadith is that the branches will in some way lighten the punishment.
If I give money to someone and say "perhaps this might help him" im not doing du'a, I am saying that I hope that the money will help hin in some way.

07-16-2011, 07:15 PM	#14
Virosponna Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 459 Senior Member	it was posted in the original post. 'Perhaps their punishment will be lightened through it as long as the branches do not dry up.' how is this not a dua?it is true the sentence does not invoke Allah (SWT) directly by saying Allahumma or any similar phrase but you can see the intention of the Prophet clearly that the punishment be lightened because of his action of placing the branches and 'hoping' Allah (SWT) will lessen the punishment till the branches dry up. this 'hope' is dua. I didn't see it sorry. Anyway, the word perhaps (ar. la'alla) doesn't indiciate that it's a du'a. Thats a possible interpretation, even though its far fetched. The obvious meaning of the hadith is that the branches will in some way lighten the punishment. If I give money to someone and say "perhaps this might help him" im not doing du'a, I am saying that I hope that the money will help hin in some way.
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