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**replicamuse** · 09-14-2010, 01:03 PM

hmmm 48 chickens r believable but 120 - 130 in a minute when there are 3 slaughters? that i dont believe

& btw thats not the only reason it could be haram..
#2. before slaughterd all the birds r stunned..sometime this causes them to have heart attacks or warreva..
after stunning b4 slaughter, the birds R NOT checkd, so they could be dead or they could be alive..

#3. because they r cuttin so many, sometimes(est. 20%) they dont do a proper job & the chickns r stil alive, then when they r thrown into the boiling water, they start flappin, meaning that they wer nt dead, sometimes THIS is what kills them..

not all of these chickens r haram, bt some r, n how do u no which 1 u eating?

sometimes i think maybe this is why the muslims is SA are how they r, they hav the knowledge bt most dont implement it into their lives, coz they hav been fed haram which makes ones iman weak

seems like u not a big fan of ML desai, bt thik u should listen to him on this matter, consuming haram/halal is an important matter.

Im sorry but I dont think you know the entire story. as far as the ulama body & supervisor at the slaughter house in question are concerned. there are two groups of slaughteres. each group slaughters for 15-20 min then takes a rest for 15-20 min while the other group slaughters. I dont know where you get the number from, maybe Im wrong-but I know that it isnt more than one 100 per min for the whole group of 15.

anyone that has seen a chicken will know that it doesnt take much to cut the head off with the first cut. so the statement of not cutting proper is baseless. if they wanted they could have just choped the head off with a cleaver-it is only makroo & still makes the meat halaal.

not animal is stuned in SA, maybe in non muslim slaughter house they stunned but not with halaal meat. i dont know where you heard that. however some ulama have said that it is permissable as long as the animal does not die.

even if you chop a chickens head off it will still start flapping. have you never been to an udhiyah-sometimes the sheep thats head is hanging from a piece of skin starts kicking after being dead for 10 min. I think you should go to a farm & see for yourself.

its not about being a fan. but we dont make haraam what is halaal. I dont think Ml Desai was at any of the farms in JHB to actualy see for himself.

does anyone know about the law suit. is it over.

09-14-2010, 01:03 PM	#36
replicamuse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	hmmm 48 chickens r believable but 120 - 130 in a minute when there are 3 slaughters? that i dont believe & btw thats not the only reason it could be haram.. #2. before slaughterd all the birds r stunned..sometime this causes them to have heart attacks or warreva.. after stunning b4 slaughter, the birds R NOT checkd, so they could be dead or they could be alive.. #3. because they r cuttin so many, sometimes(est. 20%) they dont do a proper job & the chickns r stil alive, then when they r thrown into the boiling water, they start flappin, meaning that they wer nt dead, sometimes THIS is what kills them.. not all of these chickens r haram, bt some r, n how do u no which 1 u eating? sometimes i think maybe this is why the muslims is SA are how they r, they hav the knowledge bt most dont implement it into their lives, coz they hav been fed haram which makes ones iman weak seems like u not a big fan of ML desai, bt thik u should listen to him on this matter, consuming haram/halal is an important matter. Im sorry but I dont think you know the entire story. as far as the ulama body & supervisor at the slaughter house in question are concerned. there are two groups of slaughteres. each group slaughters for 15-20 min then takes a rest for 15-20 min while the other group slaughters. I dont know where you get the number from, maybe Im wrong-but I know that it isnt more than one 100 per min for the whole group of 15. anyone that has seen a chicken will know that it doesnt take much to cut the head off with the first cut. so the statement of not cutting proper is baseless. if they wanted they could have just choped the head off with a cleaver-it is only makroo & still makes the meat halaal. not animal is stuned in SA, maybe in non muslim slaughter house they stunned but not with halaal meat. i dont know where you heard that. however some ulama have said that it is permissable as long as the animal does not die. even if you chop a chickens head off it will still start flapping. have you never been to an udhiyah-sometimes the sheep thats head is hanging from a piece of skin starts kicking after being dead for 10 min. I think you should go to a farm & see for yourself. its not about being a fan. but we dont make haraam what is halaal. I dont think Ml Desai was at any of the farms in JHB to actualy see for himself. does anyone know about the law suit. is it over.
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