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**nintenda** · 06-21-2011, 09:25 PM

It would shirk to ask the Prophets directly while knowing they are a Waseela to Allah? Or it would be shirk to ask the Prophets directly thinking they are the ones alone who will fulfill your request? Or both?

so the question arises how loud do you have to scream next to the grave of the Prophet in order for him to hear your Dua?

what about this verse in the Qur'an?

"O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not."

Now there are guards, doors, walls, thousands of people around... It wouldn't be possible to speak in a normal tone of voice and have him hear it, while still being sure you are not going against the clear Nass above.

Dear Brother, Assalaamoalikum

It would shirk to ask the Prophets directly while knowing they are a Waseela to Allah? The answer is NO.

Or it would be shirk to ask the Prophets directly thinking they are the ones alone who will fulfill your request? Answer is YES.

so the question arises how loud do you have to scream next to the grave of the Prophet in order for him to hear your Dua? A whisper is enough. In fact, you don't even have to be near the grave for him to hear you. One can also make the same du'a from one's place - just as he hears the durood / salaam I send upon him.

what about this verse in the Qur'an?

"O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not." This verse is irrelevant in the context of this discussion. This verse was revealed at the time when the Holy Messenger(SAW) was with his Sahaba (ra) who used to call him in a loud voice as they were close (in relation) to him.

Now there are guards, doors, walls, thousands of people around... It wouldn't be possible to speak in a normal tone of voice and have him hear it, while still being sure you are not going against the clear Nass above. [/QUOTE]

If we speak in a normal tone, he will hear us 100%.

Brotherly yours
farook

06-21-2011, 09:25 PM	#39
nintenda Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 621 Senior Member	It would shirk to ask the Prophets directly while knowing they are a Waseela to Allah? Or it would be shirk to ask the Prophets directly thinking they are the ones alone who will fulfill your request? Or both? so the question arises how loud do you have to scream next to the grave of the Prophet in order for him to hear your Dua? what about this verse in the Qur'an? "O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not." Now there are guards, doors, walls, thousands of people around... It wouldn't be possible to speak in a normal tone of voice and have him hear it, while still being sure you are not going against the clear Nass above. Dear Brother, Assalaamoalikum It would shirk to ask the Prophets directly while knowing they are a Waseela to Allah? The answer is NO. Or it would be shirk to ask the Prophets directly thinking they are the ones alone who will fulfill your request? Answer is YES. so the question arises how loud do you have to scream next to the grave of the Prophet in order for him to hear your Dua? A whisper is enough. In fact, you don't even have to be near the grave for him to hear you. One can also make the same du'a from one's place - just as he hears the durood / salaam I send upon him. what about this verse in the Qur'an? "O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not." This verse is irrelevant in the context of this discussion. This verse was revealed at the time when the Holy Messenger(SAW) was with his Sahaba (ra) who used to call him in a loud voice as they were close (in relation) to him. Now there are guards, doors, walls, thousands of people around... It wouldn't be possible to speak in a normal tone of voice and have him hear it, while still being sure you are not going against the clear Nass above. [/QUOTE] If we speak in a normal tone, he will hear us 100%. Brotherly yours farook
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