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**sueplydup** · 07-06-2011, 03:56 PM

If men need to come "forward", it means they go to someone they trust, they don't reveal something like this for all and sundry. It could be possible that a man is blind or handicapped and some way and is being abused by his wife. that is understandable. But a healthy man should never be afraid of getting beat by his wife. God made men physically stronger than women

As salam alaikum

Its not always like that brother, but its good to see that you are trying to understand and sympathize.

Domestic violence is usually a learned behavior from one's own upbringing. A man who's father was abused and berated by his mother and never stood up for himself will follow in this way, often without knowing it. As well, societies that have endured the chaos of civil war and violence are more likely manifest violence at home. Women who have been victims, or subject to the fears of violent chaos, like during Algeria's civil war when entire villages were massacred in horrible ways and women without hijab murdered in cold blood, its possible for girls raised in that environment to be abusive.

Add to this evil ideologies like feminism which manipulate women to imagine themselves pepetual victims who must unite against all men who are depicted as adversaries to be fought and all society is to changed to serve women.
Men raised by feminist led societies are conditioned to submit to women.

Being raised by a feminist mother (perhaps with NO father to speak of), taught by feminist female teachers in towns led by feminist leaders, such men raised in such have been taught since infancy not to strike or even touch a girl and to obey women in their lives. And yet girls compete against boys, and are encouraged to defeat and overcome boys. This may be an overly exagarated, but this is the reality for many men.

Even here in the Khaleej, more and more Arab men have no sense of honor as the women in their lives are very often more powerful than them, more demanding, dictate relations and expenses, and men are increasingly positioned to simply work to serve women. One needs only to hear about the stories of this or that woman manipulating her husband to see that its PART of secular Arab culture. Lebanese and Egyptian secular Arab culture have promoted a lowly, immoral yet powerful image of an Arab woman who dominates all around her using her sexuality. They empower immoral and corrupt women through promoting music and TV/movie stars who are despicable as models of Arab women.

BTW, the mahr for many Egyptian women as demanded by the woman's family is a house in her name. I know of Egyptian expats who paid this and work and stress like dogs, paying for a house in Egypt in his wife's name while working to survive in the Khaleej. And if there are grounds for domestic violence arrest, these men could loose their residency, their wives could have grounds for a divorce in a secular system, and the house would go to the wife with the man getting nothing after spending years working to pay for it. Quite a conundrum.

And merely grabbing the arm of one's wife as she strikes you can cause her to bruise. And according to American legal code, any evidence such as a bruise is sufficient evidence to make an arrest in a domestic violence dispute.

And naturally, women bruise much easier than men.

Why bother to call police on one's wife for her hitting you in the head? Who wants to see his wife in jail, being hauled through the neighborhood, humiliated? A man gets bruises from playing football all the time, what's another bruise from his wife?

07-06-2011, 03:56 PM	#29
sueplydup Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 538 Senior Member	If men need to come "forward", it means they go to someone they trust, they don't reveal something like this for all and sundry. It could be possible that a man is blind or handicapped and some way and is being abused by his wife. that is understandable. But a healthy man should never be afraid of getting beat by his wife. God made men physically stronger than women As salam alaikum Its not always like that brother, but its good to see that you are trying to understand and sympathize. Domestic violence is usually a learned behavior from one's own upbringing. A man who's father was abused and berated by his mother and never stood up for himself will follow in this way, often without knowing it. As well, societies that have endured the chaos of civil war and violence are more likely manifest violence at home. Women who have been victims, or subject to the fears of violent chaos, like during Algeria's civil war when entire villages were massacred in horrible ways and women without hijab murdered in cold blood, its possible for girls raised in that environment to be abusive. Add to this evil ideologies like feminism which manipulate women to imagine themselves pepetual victims who must unite against all men who are depicted as adversaries to be fought and all society is to changed to serve women. Men raised by feminist led societies are conditioned to submit to women. Being raised by a feminist mother (perhaps with NO father to speak of), taught by feminist female teachers in towns led by feminist leaders, such men raised in such have been taught since infancy not to strike or even touch a girl and to obey women in their lives. And yet girls compete against boys, and are encouraged to defeat and overcome boys. This may be an overly exagarated, but this is the reality for many men. Even here in the Khaleej, more and more Arab men have no sense of honor as the women in their lives are very often more powerful than them, more demanding, dictate relations and expenses, and men are increasingly positioned to simply work to serve women. One needs only to hear about the stories of this or that woman manipulating her husband to see that its PART of secular Arab culture. Lebanese and Egyptian secular Arab culture have promoted a lowly, immoral yet powerful image of an Arab woman who dominates all around her using her sexuality. They empower immoral and corrupt women through promoting music and TV/movie stars who are despicable as models of Arab women. BTW, the mahr for many Egyptian women as demanded by the woman's family is a house in her name. I know of Egyptian expats who paid this and work and stress like dogs, paying for a house in Egypt in his wife's name while working to survive in the Khaleej. And if there are grounds for domestic violence arrest, these men could loose their residency, their wives could have grounds for a divorce in a secular system, and the house would go to the wife with the man getting nothing after spending years working to pay for it. Quite a conundrum. And merely grabbing the arm of one's wife as she strikes you can cause her to bruise. And according to American legal code, any evidence such as a bruise is sufficient evidence to make an arrest in a domestic violence dispute. And naturally, women bruise much easier than men. Why bother to call police on one's wife for her hitting you in the head? Who wants to see his wife in jail, being hauled through the neighborhood, humiliated? A man gets bruises from playing football all the time, what's another bruise from his wife?
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