I think that is a generalization. I don't want to get into these Karachi vs. Lahore polemics, but from what I have seen with my own eyes men do not even spare women who are covered head to toe from their glares, pathetic comments, and in some cases even more. We can't say all men do this in Karachi, but it does occur and we shouldn't deny it. The topic however of this thread is honor killings and perhaps we should stick to that and help answer the sister's questions.