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**lalpphilalk** · 01-22-2008, 12:58 AM

There are three accepted schools of creed from the Ahl-ul-Sunnah: Ash'ari, Maturidi and Athari according to the opinion of Al-Saffarini (ra).

The dividing opinions comes between modern day Salafis (only Athari creed are Ahl-ul-Sunnah) vs. non-Salafis (only Ash'ari/Maturidi are Ahl-ul-Sunnah)

wa'alaykumussalaam,

It's not as simple as this though. For centuries, the Ash'ari's and Maturidis were collectively known as ahl ul-'athar and as ahl ul-Hadith. So the terms are sometimes confusing.

I think that the group which today calls itself Athari claims to follow the Aqidah of Imam Ahmad. In that case, there are potential issues surrounding the how well the beliefs of Imam Ahmad (especially the explanations of his many sayings) have been preserved. As you said, it is not truly a school.

Personally, I do not understand why anyone would choose a non-school over an established school. An established school is CONFIRMED to be correct. And if one claims that Ash'aris or Maturidis are astray, then they better be prepared to reject any and all chains that contain Ash'aris or Maturidis. I doubt that there would be a single chain that they could consider Saheeh.

Anyway, I could post tons of proofs from the Qur'an and the Hadith that specifically support the belief that the Ash'aris and Maturidis are correct.

01-22-2008, 12:58 AM	#5
lalpphilalk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	There are three accepted schools of creed from the Ahl-ul-Sunnah: Ash'ari, Maturidi and Athari according to the opinion of Al-Saffarini (ra). The dividing opinions comes between modern day Salafis (only Athari creed are Ahl-ul-Sunnah) vs. non-Salafis (only Ash'ari/Maturidi are Ahl-ul-Sunnah) wa'alaykumussalaam, It's not as simple as this though. For centuries, the Ash'ari's and Maturidis were collectively known as ahl ul-'athar and as ahl ul-Hadith. So the terms are sometimes confusing. I think that the group which today calls itself Athari claims to follow the Aqidah of Imam Ahmad. In that case, there are potential issues surrounding the how well the beliefs of Imam Ahmad (especially the explanations of his many sayings) have been preserved. As you said, it is not truly a school. Personally, I do not understand why anyone would choose a non-school over an established school. An established school is CONFIRMED to be correct. And if one claims that Ash'aris or Maturidis are astray, then they better be prepared to reject any and all chains that contain Ash'aris or Maturidis. I doubt that there would be a single chain that they could consider Saheeh. Anyway, I could post tons of proofs from the Qur'an and the Hadith that specifically support the belief that the Ash'aris and Maturidis are correct.
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