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**xanonlinexan** · 07-06-2011, 11:46 AM

in the UAE most of the police force and army personnel are forced to shave their beards and keep something close to stubble. I think the police force in Dubai maybe is exempted from this but for sure this is the policy in Abu dhabi having spoken to some police officers and army personnel. One police officer told me his superior told him that if he does not cut his beard then the superior shall have his neck cut by his superiors. Generally in the UAE it is very very rare to find a proper bearded person though most locals have some sort of stubble emulating their rulers. The bearded brothers with proper sunnah beard are usually salafi. With regards to getting a job it all depends who you work for etc. I know a brother who works for Aramex whose manager is lebenese who was forced to shave his beard off. Etihad airways does not allow its staff to grow a beard. However many jobs do allow people to grow beards...so it is a case by case basis. The 'other' lighter skinned arabs are mostly clean shaven and many of them (lebanese) resent bearded people as they see it as some sign of backwardness. The local arabs (emiratis) generally have no problem with bearded people and respect them a lot. So anyway it all depends on where you work, who you work for, managers etc. You are more likely to be accepted for growing a beard if the company is owned/managed by indopak people (though this also depends) and emiratis. You are likely to face discrimination for growing a beard by the lighter skinned arabs as in their lands they are mostly clean shaven or their definition of a beard is small stubble.
But let me say 1 thing. As a Muslim we should never worry about what people think. Whenever I have met such fools who look at the beard with disgust then I have never bowed to them and felt inferior. I feel proud of the sunnah regardless of who likes it and dislikes it. I urge my arab brothers to grow a beard. How sad I was when I went to a Muslim arab country once and never saw 1 person with a sunnah beard. I was thinking in the land of the non-muslims I see more sunnah of the beard. There are definitely more sunnah bearded people in london then there are in all the cities of the UAE.

Very accurate insight.

Many western Muslims have this notion that Muslim lands are lands where Muslims practise Islam and where everyone is a brother etc etc

What they forget is that is atually easier to practise Islam in some, western cities than in many Muslim majority lands.

The UAE is actually quite free in that people can keep long beards, its just that many organizations dont allowlong beards . In places like Uzbekistan, Tunisia (formerly), Jordan, one can be harassed by the govt for having long beard.

And as for Levantine Arabs, they generally make the cruellest managers at least in the UAE. Many of them have Canadian passports and use that arrogantly while formulating inhumane rules and practices for their staff

07-06-2011, 11:46 AM	#11
xanonlinexan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 623 Senior Member	in the UAE most of the police force and army personnel are forced to shave their beards and keep something close to stubble. I think the police force in Dubai maybe is exempted from this but for sure this is the policy in Abu dhabi having spoken to some police officers and army personnel. One police officer told me his superior told him that if he does not cut his beard then the superior shall have his neck cut by his superiors. Generally in the UAE it is very very rare to find a proper bearded person though most locals have some sort of stubble emulating their rulers. The bearded brothers with proper sunnah beard are usually salafi. With regards to getting a job it all depends who you work for etc. I know a brother who works for Aramex whose manager is lebenese who was forced to shave his beard off. Etihad airways does not allow its staff to grow a beard. However many jobs do allow people to grow beards...so it is a case by case basis. The 'other' lighter skinned arabs are mostly clean shaven and many of them (lebanese) resent bearded people as they see it as some sign of backwardness. The local arabs (emiratis) generally have no problem with bearded people and respect them a lot. So anyway it all depends on where you work, who you work for, managers etc. You are more likely to be accepted for growing a beard if the company is owned/managed by indopak people (though this also depends) and emiratis. You are likely to face discrimination for growing a beard by the lighter skinned arabs as in their lands they are mostly clean shaven or their definition of a beard is small stubble. But let me say 1 thing. As a Muslim we should never worry about what people think. Whenever I have met such fools who look at the beard with disgust then I have never bowed to them and felt inferior. I feel proud of the sunnah regardless of who likes it and dislikes it. I urge my arab brothers to grow a beard. How sad I was when I went to a Muslim arab country once and never saw 1 person with a sunnah beard. I was thinking in the land of the non-muslims I see more sunnah of the beard. There are definitely more sunnah bearded people in london then there are in all the cities of the UAE. Very accurate insight. Many western Muslims have this notion that Muslim lands are lands where Muslims practise Islam and where everyone is a brother etc etc What they forget is that is atually easier to practise Islam in some, western cities than in many Muslim majority lands. The UAE is actually quite free in that people can keep long beards, its just that many organizations dont allowlong beards . In places like Uzbekistan, Tunisia (formerly), Jordan, one can be harassed by the govt for having long beard. And as for Levantine Arabs, they generally make the cruellest managers at least in the UAE. Many of them have Canadian passports and use that arrogantly while formulating inhumane rules and practices for their staff
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