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**layedgebiamma** · 06-12-2011, 09:59 PM

One has to differentiate between the 'Sufis' as this slogan is used by everyone in Tasawwuf - even by the Mubtadi'oon. This differentiation is a must because of the fact there are different flavours of it. Some drenched in heresy, some are upon the Shari'ah whilst some are frankly scam artists.

Even Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah has differentiated between them, in his Majmu' al-Fatawa:

http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/d...k_no=22&ID=651

الصوفية " ثلاثة أصناف "

صوفية الحقائق

وصوفية الأرزاق

وصوفية الرسم

If one were to read the major passages above in the Shaykhs Fatawa he is infact for Tasawwuf and Sufism.

Regardless, it would be abit foolish not to seperate the frauds, misguiders from the real Sufis.

This is an excellent point, however, the question remains: what group of Sufis do you think represent the sort that Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah

spoke about in his Majmoo al-Fatawa? If you could substantiate this with quotes from his Majmoo al-Fatawa, then please go right ahead- perhaps he named or specified a tariqa that he was in favor of, and enumerated upon its practices- this would help in differentiating the Sufis who have deviated strongly from the Sufis who stuck strictly to practices found in the Qur'an and Sunnah.

It would also help if you connected it to the Sufis of today- perhaps which group it was then and whether their practices are the same now as they were then.

06-12-2011, 09:59 PM	#15
layedgebiamma Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 454 Senior Member	One has to differentiate between the 'Sufis' as this slogan is used by everyone in Tasawwuf - even by the Mubtadi'oon. This differentiation is a must because of the fact there are different flavours of it. Some drenched in heresy, some are upon the Shari'ah whilst some are frankly scam artists. Even Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah has differentiated between them, in his Majmu' al-Fatawa: http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/d...k_no=22&ID=651 الصوفية " ثلاثة أصناف " صوفية الحقائق وصوفية الأرزاق وصوفية الرسم If one were to read the major passages above in the Shaykhs Fatawa he is infact for Tasawwuf and Sufism. Regardless, it would be abit foolish not to seperate the frauds, misguiders from the real Sufis. This is an excellent point, however, the question remains: what group of Sufis do you think represent the sort that Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah spoke about in his Majmoo al-Fatawa? If you could substantiate this with quotes from his Majmoo al-Fatawa, then please go right ahead- perhaps he named or specified a tariqa that he was in favor of, and enumerated upon its practices- this would help in differentiating the Sufis who have deviated strongly from the Sufis who stuck strictly to practices found in the Qur'an and Sunnah. It would also help if you connected it to the Sufis of today- perhaps which group it was then and whether their practices are the same now as they were then.
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