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**layedgebiamma** · 06-12-2011, 10:51 PM

As far as i am aware he makes no distinction as to which tariqah is better and which is not, infact he praises the Major known Sufis eselwhere in his work - and he doesn't criticise any specific Tariqahs.

He instead repudiates claims made by the Anti-Sufis (in his day and age) that Sufism and Tasawwuf are people of Bid'ah and are out of the Sunnah.

I dont think Ibn Taymiyyah touched very much upon it's practcies but if you mean dhikr gatherings and ijtimas of other sorts then yes elsewehere in his Majmu' he does talk about it in his answers to various questions - il see if i find something.

To me it is simple, find a Shaykh who is proficient in Shari'ah, i.e. Mufassir, Muhaddith, Faqeeh and be under their tutelage in Tasawwuf be it in any Tariqah. Because those who have knowledge in Deen find a balance in both the external and the internal.

WaSalaam

Here's a question. Is the work in Majmoo al-Fatawa not to be weighed with the remainder of his work?

Because it's quite clear that a large amount of his work was dedicated to criticizing heavily well-known Sufis and practices with regards to Sufism during his time- such as the Friends of Allah and the Friends of Shaytaan; that work in particular is quite scathing and obviously directed at certain sufis.

And then there's his (and others') takfeer of Ibn Arabi', who is regarded as 'al-Shaykh al-Akbar' by a great number of groups today. Then take into account his refusal to support any forms of dhikr not specifically (specifically, not implicitly) supported by the Qur'an and Sunnah... (an opinion shared by the Hanbali scholars, such as Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali

(see Jami al-Uloom wal Hukam) and Ibn Qudama

, see Ibn Qudama's opinion of hadras)...

Taking all this into account, well, who exactly are the Sufis he praises, whose work can be seen and viewed today in a context free of additions? What Tariqa indeed would fit into Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah's

Sufism paradigm? I doubt very much that the ones nowadays would.

06-12-2011, 10:51 PM	#17
layedgebiamma Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 454 Senior Member	As far as i am aware he makes no distinction as to which tariqah is better and which is not, infact he praises the Major known Sufis eselwhere in his work - and he doesn't criticise any specific Tariqahs. He instead repudiates claims made by the Anti-Sufis (in his day and age) that Sufism and Tasawwuf are people of Bid'ah and are out of the Sunnah. I dont think Ibn Taymiyyah touched very much upon it's practcies but if you mean dhikr gatherings and ijtimas of other sorts then yes elsewehere in his Majmu' he does talk about it in his answers to various questions - il see if i find something. To me it is simple, find a Shaykh who is proficient in Shari'ah, i.e. Mufassir, Muhaddith, Faqeeh and be under their tutelage in Tasawwuf be it in any Tariqah. Because those who have knowledge in Deen find a balance in both the external and the internal. WaSalaam Here's a question. Is the work in Majmoo al-Fatawa not to be weighed with the remainder of his work? Because it's quite clear that a large amount of his work was dedicated to criticizing heavily well-known Sufis and practices with regards to Sufism during his time- such as the Friends of Allah and the Friends of Shaytaan; that work in particular is quite scathing and obviously directed at certain sufis. And then there's his (and others') takfeer of Ibn Arabi', who is regarded as 'al-Shaykh al-Akbar' by a great number of groups today. Then take into account his refusal to support any forms of dhikr not specifically (specifically, not implicitly) supported by the Qur'an and Sunnah... (an opinion shared by the Hanbali scholars, such as Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali (see Jami al-Uloom wal Hukam) and Ibn Qudama , see Ibn Qudama's opinion of hadras)... Taking all this into account, well, who exactly are the Sufis he praises, whose work can be seen and viewed today in a context free of additions? What Tariqa indeed would fit into Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah's Sufism paradigm? I doubt very much that the ones nowadays would.
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