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Old 06-11-2011, 09:30 PM   #21
Pwy9egVW

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This is soo messed up. On one side of the coin we have here respected shyukh, such as Habib Ali etc, who visit shaykh NAzim , kiss his hands, give him utmost respect. And then there is this other side of the Coin where we have other muslims who warn about shaykh Nazim as if he is the horn of the devil. What a craziness. Are you saying that Habib Ali and etc just pay respect and kiss his hands cuz its sunnah to treat people well and inside they know the wickedness of this man. Or is it that in their books he is truly a wali, but in other peoples book he is not. What is it that Habib Ali and likes do not see, that the others see about this man. So is it that Habib Ali is simple or ignorant about this man;s corruption, or he doesnt count him as deviant. And if he doesnt think of him as devient then that means according to the other side who thinks of him as deviant, then by default makes Habib ali and likes deviant.

Or is it not that extreme. And shaykh nazim and crew is just like ordinary muslim sheikhs who happen to sometimes exaggerate in the talks, and they are light mood people who once in a week like to have a little spiritual party where they get together and have some light entertainment(singing zikr). So overall nuthing too bad, no haram , and its all good according to the scholors. Like they say in urdu Chalta hai!. so is this the case.

i would really like people to say their thoughts out, cuz i have been hearing so much stuff from people about this, and watching all these scholors also criticze him and show affection to him. that iam just confused what position should one have regarding him. If he is deviant then are the ulema such as Habib Ali etc dumb, or they just happaned to be in his town and thought about lets pay a visit to an old man, even though he is deviant, but what the heck, he is a muslim, is this the case. or they think he is right, and the other ulema who critize him think wrong.
ofcourse habib ali is not a criteria to judge people, but i am using him as an example cuz i have seen videos of him with shaykh nazim and apparently habib ali is respected in all muslim circles except die hard salafi boys, which is another extreme, and not important at all.So he is overall considered as a right scholor and upholder of sunnah.
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