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**beethyday** · 03-25-2006, 04:37 AM

If Muslims change their way of life and adhere to the Shari’ah, and the Sunnah of Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam], the non-Muslims and governments will be impressed. We have become targets because we do not practice true Islam.

I'm sorry, but this is not completely true. The Prophet (SAW) and the
Sahaba were the best of people and practiced Islam in the best manner possible ... yet they were made targets of oppression and injustice. They faced difficulties wherever they turned, and were engaged in battles all their lives. If you ever read a book of early Islamic history, the greater portion will be that of defence and conquest. Just like the Tablighi's nowadays say .. 'yehi kaam hai' (this is THE work) ... the Companions treated Jihad the same way.
The disbelievers will never be happy with us, and their beef with us will remain until either we or them change ways ... and it sure as hell ain't gonna be us. If we all start using the miswak, wearing a topi, smilling at each other, and stop cursing ... while we will be attaining nearness to Allah insha'Allah by adopting the Sunnah, the disbelievers will still ravage us just as they are doing today. If we want to adopt the Sunnah in its entirety .. well .. Jihad was also the Sunnah, was it not? The Prophet (SAW) predicted this during his lifetime ... he said that the disbelievers will attack the muslims as if they are feasting from a plate ... and it will not be because we are few in number, but because we have 'wahn' in our hearts - fear of death and love of this world.

people to Islam. Before discussing the issue of Jihaad, it is important to focus on strengthening one’s faith, Imaan and practice.

So after what level of faith, iman, and practice may we discuss Jihad? Perfecting ones faith, iman, and ibadaat is a struggle which lasts till our very last breath! If that is so, then we will never be able to discuss Jihad, as pefecting the so-called prerequisites takes a lifetime! The effort of Tabligh is supposed to bring people back to practicing the religion ... Jihad is part of it! It becomes Fard 'Ayn in concentric circles until the entire Ummah has this obligation on their neck! Heck, let's assume it wasn't Fard 'Ayn .. and merely a Nafl act of worship. Then surely, if people are truly practicing the deen, they would aspire to engage in Nafl worship as well, no?

Instead of implicitly denying that people should take part in Jihad, they should just say: Yes, Jihad is essential and some people should take part in it ... however we need people in all fields of the religion, and Da'wah is no exception (division of labor). He just discounted Jihad all together by saying not to discuss it until one has perfected faith, iman, and practice. *sigh*

03-25-2006, 04:37 AM	#2
beethyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 497 Senior Member	If Muslims change their way of life and adhere to the Shari’ah, and the Sunnah of Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam], the non-Muslims and governments will be impressed. We have become targets because we do not practice true Islam. I'm sorry, but this is not completely true. The Prophet (SAW) and the Sahaba were the best of people and practiced Islam in the best manner possible ... yet they were made targets of oppression and injustice. They faced difficulties wherever they turned, and were engaged in battles all their lives. If you ever read a book of early Islamic history, the greater portion will be that of defence and conquest. Just like the Tablighi's nowadays say .. 'yehi kaam hai' (this is THE work) ... the Companions treated Jihad the same way. The disbelievers will never be happy with us, and their beef with us will remain until either we or them change ways ... and it sure as hell ain't gonna be us. If we all start using the miswak, wearing a topi, smilling at each other, and stop cursing ... while we will be attaining nearness to Allah insha'Allah by adopting the Sunnah, the disbelievers will still ravage us just as they are doing today. If we want to adopt the Sunnah in its entirety .. well .. Jihad was also the Sunnah, was it not? The Prophet (SAW) predicted this during his lifetime ... he said that the disbelievers will attack the muslims as if they are feasting from a plate ... and it will not be because we are few in number, but because we have 'wahn' in our hearts - fear of death and love of this world. people to Islam. Before discussing the issue of Jihaad, it is important to focus on strengthening one’s faith, Imaan and practice. So after what level of faith, iman, and practice may we discuss Jihad? Perfecting ones faith, iman, and ibadaat is a struggle which lasts till our very last breath! If that is so, then we will never be able to discuss Jihad, as pefecting the so-called prerequisites takes a lifetime! The effort of Tabligh is supposed to bring people back to practicing the religion ... Jihad is part of it! It becomes Fard 'Ayn in concentric circles until the entire Ummah has this obligation on their neck! Heck, let's assume it wasn't Fard 'Ayn .. and merely a Nafl act of worship. Then surely, if people are truly practicing the deen, they would aspire to engage in Nafl worship as well, no? Instead of implicitly denying that people should take part in Jihad, they should just say: Yes, Jihad is essential and some people should take part in it ... however we need people in all fields of the religion, and Da'wah is no exception (division of labor). He just discounted Jihad all together by saying not to discuss it until one has perfected faith, iman, and practice. sigh
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