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Old 06-10-2011, 10:52 PM   #11
feqlmwtuqx

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السلام عليكم

Sayyeds are found in Islam but their status means absolutely nothing nor does it give them special privileges, if they sin they go to hell, in fact in I've already mentioned this but in Lebanon we have five Christian families who are Sayyeds.

Only scholars who are experts in the field of genealogy may study your family tree and inform you if you are a Sayyed or not.

Many claim to be Sayyeds just to get a higher status in society, some even buy family trees.

The vast majority of Shia scholars claiming to be Sayyeds are liars of the highest order and they cannot prove it with authentic Sahih evidence.

I've read many Hadiths from the members of Ahlul-Bayt and you can see for yourselves what their attitude was regarding this matter as one of them was having a discussion with a Shia:


حدثنا محمد بن عاصم حدثنا شبابة حدثنا الفضيل بن مرزوق قال سمعت الحسن بن الحسن أخا عبد الله بن الحسن وهو يقول لرجل ممن يغلو فيهم ويحكم أحبونا لله فإن اطعنا الله فأحبونا وان عصينا الله بابغضونا فإن قال فقال له رجل إنكم ذو قرابة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم واهل بيته فقال ويحكم لو كان الله عز وجل نافعا بقرابة من رسوله بغير عمل بطاعته لنفع بذلك من هو أقرب إليه منا أباه وامه والله إني لاخاف أن يضاعف للعاصي منا العذاب ضعفين والله إني لارجو أن يوتى المحسن منا أجره مرتين قال ثم قال لقد أساء بنا آباؤنا وامهاتنا إن كان آباؤنا ما تقولون في دين الله ثم لم يخبرونا به ولم يطلعونا عليه ولم يرغبونا فيه فنحن والله كنا اقرب منهم قرابة منكم وأوجب عليهم حقا وأحق بأن يرغبونا فيه منكم ولو كان الأمر كما تقولون ان الله ورسوله اختارا عليا لهذا الامر والقيام على الناس بعد إن كان عليا لأعظم الناس في ذلك خطيئة وجرما إذ ترك امر رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم أن يقوم فيه كما امره أو يعذر فيه الى الناس قال فقال له الرافضي ألم يقل رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم لعلي من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه قال أما والله أن لو يعني رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم بذلك الإمرة والسلطان والقيام على الناس لافصح عمر لهم بذلك كما افصح لهم بالصلاة والزكاة وصيام رمضان وحج البيت ولقال لهم أيها الناس إن هذا ولي امركم من بعدي فاسمعوا له واطيعوا فما كان من وراء هذا شيئا فإن أنصح الناس كان للمسلمين رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم Ibn Katheer in al-Bidayah wal Nihayah 9/178 and al-Haythami in al-Sawa'eq al-Muhriqa p346:

Muhammad ibn 'Asim from Shubabah from al-Fudayl ibn Marzuq; he said: I heard al-Hassan ibn al-Hassan the brother of 'Abdullah bin al-Hassan saying to a Man who was making Ghulu in Ahlul-Bayt(means raising them above their level): "Beware! you should love us for Allah so if we obey him then love us and if we disobey him then hate us." The Man said: "But you are a close relative of the Prophet PBUH and from his Ahlul-bayt." al-Hassan replied:"Cease! If Allah wanted to benefit the relatives of the Prophet SAWS without them being pious and obedient to him then he would have benefited his mother and his father those who were even closer to him than us, by Allah I fear that the punishment for us will be doubled and I hope that Allah will double the reward of the pious amongst us." al-Hassan continued telling that extremist: "If what you say is a part of the religion of Allah then it is our fathers and mothers who have wronged us by not telling us about this matter because it is our right to know this since we are closer to them -Ali and his children- than you, and if it was as you say that Allah and his Prophet SAWS chose 'Ali for this affair and this responsibility then the one who is most sinful amongst us would be 'Ali since he abandoned the order of the Prophet SAWS." Thus the Rafidhi said to him: "Didn't the Prophet SAWS tell 'Ali: Man Kuntu Mawlah fa 'Aliyun Mawlah?" al-Hassan replied: "By Allah if the Prophet SAWS had meant the emirate and the leadership of the people then 'Umar would have stated it just like he told the people to make Salat and Siyam and Hajj and Zakat and he would have said: O people this is your Wali-al-Amr (leader) after me so listen to him and obey him. There was none of this."

Grading:

قال المزي في تهذيب الكمال (6|88): «وهذا من أصح الأسانيد وأعلاها». al-Mezzi said in Tahtheeb al-Kamal 6/88: "And this is from the highest and most authentic Isnads"

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