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**Lgcjqxlw** · 07-23-2010, 04:36 AM

The Arabic makes no mention of 'faces' at all.

With all due respect, but you are wrong. Khimar means something that covers face and in the hadith "fakhtamarna" mean covering faces. I read the article on your link but doesn't come true with authentic text. There are many, for the sake of brevity here is an example from Sahabiyat - please sincerely try to see how they understood the word "khimar".

رواه ابن أبي خيثمة ، من طريق إسماعيل بن أبي خالد ، عن أمه قالت : « كنا ندخل على
أم المؤمنين يوم التروية ، فقلت لها : يا أم المؤمنين ، هنا امرأة تأبى أن تغطيَ
وجهها وهي محرمة ، فرفعت عائشة خمارها من صدرها فغطَّت به وجهها »
Ibn Abi Khaythamah reports from the way of Ismaa’eel ibn Abi Khaalid from his mother that she said,

“We entered upon Umm Al-Mu’minīn on Yawm At-Tarwayah and we said to her, ‘Oh Mother of the Believers! Here is a woman who refuses to cover her face and she is a Muhrimah (in ihrām). So ‘Aa’ishah lifted her Khimār from her chest, and covered the woman’s face with it.”

This hadīth has been mentioned in At-Talkhees Al-Habeer of Ibn Hajr Al-’Asqalaani 2/272 or number 1083 in some prints. The chain of this hadīth is strong. Notice here that she covered the woman’s face with her khimār. This is proof that the Sahabiyyat knew the khimār was meant to cover the face just as we stated previously. Furthermore, here is a woman who did not want to cover, so ‘Aa’ishah took it upon herself to cover the woman, as this would be changing an evil with her own hand. This is in compliance with the hadīth of the Nabi (SAWS) (Sallalllahu ‘Alayhi wa Sallam) when he said, “When you see a munkar (evil), change it with your hand…” In this hadīth is proof that you must cover your face in front of non-mahram men. (Abul Layth)

07-23-2010, 04:36 AM	#37
Lgcjqxlw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	The Arabic makes no mention of 'faces' at all. With all due respect, but you are wrong. Khimar means something that covers face and in the hadith "fakhtamarna" mean covering faces. I read the article on your link but doesn't come true with authentic text. There are many, for the sake of brevity here is an example from Sahabiyat - please sincerely try to see how they understood the word "khimar". رواه ابن أبي خيثمة ، من طريق إسماعيل بن أبي خالد ، عن أمه قالت : « كنا ندخل على أم المؤمنين يوم التروية ، فقلت لها : يا أم المؤمنين ، هنا امرأة تأبى أن تغطيَ وجهها وهي محرمة ، فرفعت عائشة خمارها من صدرها فغطَّت به وجهها » Ibn Abi Khaythamah reports from the way of Ismaa’eel ibn Abi Khaalid from his mother that she said, “We entered upon Umm Al-Mu’minīn on Yawm At-Tarwayah and we said to her, ‘Oh Mother of the Believers! Here is a woman who refuses to cover her face and she is a Muhrimah (in ihrām). So ‘Aa’ishah lifted her Khimār from her chest, and covered the woman’s face with it.” This hadīth has been mentioned in At-Talkhees Al-Habeer of Ibn Hajr Al-’Asqalaani 2/272 or number 1083 in some prints. The chain of this hadīth is strong. Notice here that she covered the woman’s face with her khimār. This is proof that the Sahabiyyat knew the khimār was meant to cover the face just as we stated previously. Furthermore, here is a woman who did not want to cover, so ‘Aa’ishah took it upon herself to cover the woman, as this would be changing an evil with her own hand. This is in compliance with the hadīth of the Nabi (SAWS) (Sallalllahu ‘Alayhi wa Sallam) when he said, “When you see a munkar (evil), change it with your hand…” In this hadīth is proof that you must cover your face in front of non-mahram men. (Abul Layth)
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