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This is the narration which the likes of Abu Bakr Ibn Shihab Al-Alawi Al-Hadhrami, and his student Ibn Aqeel Al-Alawi, and then Ahmed Al-Ghumari and his likes, which include Hasan As-Saqqaf, used to propogate their deviant view regarding Hz Mu'awiyah [RA]. Hasan As-Saqqaf mentioned this in his notes on "Al-Utb Al-Jameel" of Ibn Aqeel (pg.25), and qouted Ahmed Al-Ghumari where he declared this narration to be authentic based on the condition of Muslim (not Bukhari as someone mentioned here), and he also insulted scholars who reported this without mentioning the specific name in hadith, that they did so based on their Nasibi madhhab. It would be really interesting to know the view of Mahmud Sa'eed Mamduh, another shi'i tafdhili.

The first problem in the hadith is Abdur-Razzaq who, although a Imam and Hafiz, got confused in his later days, and anything which he narrated in his later life, and it doesn't exist in his book, then it is doubtful. Surely his book doesn't contain this report. I'll add some qoutes and other problem in narration some other time.

Aoothoo billahi Min ashaitan Ar Rajeem......This is exactly why the shias call the ppl of the sunnah "Enemies of the Ahlul-Bait" because of trying to downgrade the crimes of the Ummayyeds. Its well known that Muawiyya opposed the messengers family. He may not hav been as bad as Yazid and may Allah forgive him but this stuff is clear:

This hadith has been narrated. on the authority of Shu'ba with the same chain of transmitters. Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyin appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said: What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'Ali), whereupon he said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camel. I heard Allah's Messenger say to Ali as he left him behind in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). Ali said to Allah's Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children. Thereupon Allah's Messenger said to him: Aren't you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with the exception that there is no prophethood after me. And I (also) heard him say on the Day of Khaibar: I would certainly give this standard to a person who loves Allah and his Messenger and Allah and his Messenger love him too. He (the narrator) said: We have been anxiously waiting for it, when he (the Holy Prophet) said: Call 'Ali. He was called and his eyes were inflamed. He applied saliva to his eyes and handed over the standard to him, and Allah gave him victory. (The third occasion is this) when the (following) verse was revealed:" Let us summon our children and your children." Allah's Messenger called 'Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain and said: O Allah, they are my family. (Bukhari and Muslim)

But we refrain of speaking ill of Muawiyya because of a tradition attributed to the messenger (May peace and blessings be upon him):

" Th first amongst my followers who will invade Ceaser's city will be forgiven their sins."
[Sahi Al; Bukhari, Vol. I P. 109,

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 175: (Sahih Bukhari – Translated by Muhsin Khan)
Narrated Khalid bin Madan:

'Umair bin Al-Aswad Al-Anasi told him that he went to 'Ubada bin As-Samit while he was staying in his house at the sea-shore of Hims with (his wife) Um Haram. 'Umair said. Um Haram informed us that she heard the Prophet saying, "Paradise is granted to the first batch of my followers who will undertake a naval expedition." Um Haram added, I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Will I be amongst them?' He replied, 'You are amongst them.' The Prophet then said, 'The first army amongst' my followers who will invade Caesar's City will be forgiven their sins.' I asked, 'Will I be one of them, O Allah's Apostle?' He replied in the negative."

Muawiyya tok part in both of these campaigns. He organized them so we should refrain from speaking ill someone Allah may hav forgiven...but don't paint the illusion that certain events never took place just leave the subject alone and Allahu Alim.