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**foodselfdourileka** · 12-18-2010, 11:54 AM

I really tried with him. He asked for the proofs, I tried my best. The argument became hot as well. He mentioned some ahadith that he took very literally. I emotionally challenged him to produce a surah like that in the Qur'an- I told him to go and learn Arabic and do so. At the end of this chat that we had, we both cooled down and he said I haven't proven anything to him and that it has made him more worse. I kept on advising him to pray to the Creator, to just even say "if you exist", I don't think he wants to. He believes Islam has segregated him from society and things like that. We handshook and I managed to al hamdu lillah to ask him to write down his questions and I will forward them to the people of knowledge. I really hope he doesn't turn back. But he has said that after these answers he wants nothing to do with Islam. He doesn't want biased answers either. Later on, I regretted my stupid debate style and went to him and said that my actions do not represent the prophet sallAllahu 'alaihi wa sallam and that I am only human and I am imperfect. He understood al hamdu lillah. Just make du'aa for him, he feels Islam has been the worst time of his life- mainly due to segregation from society. May Allah forgive us all. Ameen.

Apologies if I offend, but I have to say that rejecting a religion due to segregation from society is quite foolish.

Truth stands apart and alone.

Even if there were no Muslims in the world, Islam would still be the truth. We know this because it can't be false.

The Islamic concept of God is the only logically sound one. This isn't hyperbole, it is truth. Name any other religion in the world, and it can be falsified, usually very easily. Islam has never, and can never be falsified, simply because our beliefs are not possibilities, but rather logical necessities.

So we have already proven Islam true.

Our God is the true God. Not because I say so, but because it must be so. There is no other way. Two (or three, or any other plurality) gods can't exist. But, a God must exist.

Our Prophet

is the true Final Prophet. Not because I say so, but because it must be so. There is no other way. It is impossible for a human to write one Surah, let alone forge 114 of them.

Now, someone may ask: what about the other religions? The simple answer is that Islam is true without a doubt. Every other religion would have to be proven on its own merits. Which hasn't happened, simply because they have been, on the contrary, falsified many times over.

12-18-2010, 11:54 AM	#27
foodselfdourileka Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	I really tried with him. He asked for the proofs, I tried my best. The argument became hot as well. He mentioned some ahadith that he took very literally. I emotionally challenged him to produce a surah like that in the Qur'an- I told him to go and learn Arabic and do so. At the end of this chat that we had, we both cooled down and he said I haven't proven anything to him and that it has made him more worse. I kept on advising him to pray to the Creator, to just even say "if you exist", I don't think he wants to. He believes Islam has segregated him from society and things like that. We handshook and I managed to al hamdu lillah to ask him to write down his questions and I will forward them to the people of knowledge. I really hope he doesn't turn back. But he has said that after these answers he wants nothing to do with Islam. He doesn't want biased answers either. Later on, I regretted my stupid debate style and went to him and said that my actions do not represent the prophet sallAllahu 'alaihi wa sallam and that I am only human and I am imperfect. He understood al hamdu lillah. Just make du'aa for him, he feels Islam has been the worst time of his life- mainly due to segregation from society. May Allah forgive us all. Ameen. Apologies if I offend, but I have to say that rejecting a religion due to segregation from society is quite foolish. Truth stands apart and alone. Even if there were no Muslims in the world, Islam would still be the truth. We know this because it can't be false. The Islamic concept of God is the only logically sound one. This isn't hyperbole, it is truth. Name any other religion in the world, and it can be falsified, usually very easily. Islam has never, and can never be falsified, simply because our beliefs are not possibilities, but rather logical necessities. So we have already proven Islam true. Our God is the true God. Not because I say so, but because it must be so. There is no other way. Two (or three, or any other plurality) gods can't exist. But, a God must exist. Our Prophet is the true Final Prophet. Not because I say so, but because it must be so. There is no other way. It is impossible for a human to write one Surah, let alone forge 114 of them. Now, someone may ask: what about the other religions? The simple answer is that Islam is true without a doubt. Every other religion would have to be proven on its own merits. Which hasn't happened, simply because they have been, on the contrary, falsified many times over.
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