[alexosnasos2]

And why has the op not stated what his thoughts are?

because interpreting and explaining hadith is beyond the scope of my knowledge and i wanted other knowledgeable brothers to explain the true meaning of these hadith to me in order that i may refute them with knowledge.

i knew the knowledgable brothers on the forum would easily refute the baseless barelwi arguments and to a point have done exactly that.

if you are suspicious of my motives then for me that is not a problem as i do seek anything, including acceptance, from any man or woman.

for all your replies.