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**#[SoftAzerZx]** · 05-17-2011, 07:56 PM

If you have a specific reason for wanting to switch, then let us know and we could perhaps ease your anxieties.

I will tell you right now that the Hanbali movement in the West is largely a front for Salafiyyah, and you will have to eventually pick between the Ulema of Deoband and the Suadi Hanbalis. I know some may be thinking that this isn't true, but I personally know a person that lives in my city who has basically made an occupation out of luring Hanafis in the name of Tableegh and then turning them into "Hanbali" Salafis who mock and look down upon Hanafis in particular, and every other Madhab in general.

It could probably be asked, "Why Hanbali?" With all due respect to the Madhab, why would you want to choose the Madhab which has always historically been the smallest, and has yet whose scholars have probably led to the most strife within the Ummah in relative terms (I don't mean to slight the Madhab, but rather call to attention the fact that the recent interest in it must have a cause that didn't exist in the Modern day)? Of course the methodology is valid, and it is important that there be Hanbalis who are able to keep the Madhab alive and not die like many others, but in this day and age the resurgence Hanabilah has seen is not due to its own merits, but due to the calculated attacks that the scholars of the other Madhahib have been facing from scholars from certain sects. So you should really ponder upon the reasons for your attraction to the Madhab. Is it artificial or real?

In addition, there will be a lot of difficulties in learning the Madhab, as even Musa Ferber has attested to.

As for the website you have mentioned, I personally know the one who has written those articles, and would very much warn against it due to the blatant dishonesty exhibited within that website, as well as from my own personal dealings with the person.

You said you have a Shaikh, why not ask him?

salams

there is no specific reason for switching. a student can gradually gravitate towards a particular contemporary scholar and in the same way one can be inclined to a particular classical scholar and his school.

in response to your points about aqida and the link you provided about salafi mujassima. then that is not the path that i am on as they seem intent on delving into the howness of the attributes and expelling the asharis and maturidis from the ahla sunna and i'm not sure why exactly you think that I am on this path.
I would advise you to purchase shaykh riyadh ul haq's lectures on aqidatul tahawiya from the al kawthar academy website which will help you to appreciate that there are 3 schools of sunni aqida. this is also clarified by mufti taqi usmani http://www.deoband.org/2010/04/hadit...utes-of-allah/

I accept your points regarding the hijacking of the hanbali school and I suppose this would be the danger in switching i.e that the lack of english speaking traditional hanbalis would mean that I would have to rely on those who have not truly embraced the hanbali school.

05-17-2011, 07:56 PM	#8
#[SoftAzerZx] Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 586 Senior Member	If you have a specific reason for wanting to switch, then let us know and we could perhaps ease your anxieties. I will tell you right now that the Hanbali movement in the West is largely a front for Salafiyyah, and you will have to eventually pick between the Ulema of Deoband and the Suadi Hanbalis. I know some may be thinking that this isn't true, but I personally know a person that lives in my city who has basically made an occupation out of luring Hanafis in the name of Tableegh and then turning them into "Hanbali" Salafis who mock and look down upon Hanafis in particular, and every other Madhab in general. It could probably be asked, "Why Hanbali?" With all due respect to the Madhab, why would you want to choose the Madhab which has always historically been the smallest, and has yet whose scholars have probably led to the most strife within the Ummah in relative terms (I don't mean to slight the Madhab, but rather call to attention the fact that the recent interest in it must have a cause that didn't exist in the Modern day)? Of course the methodology is valid, and it is important that there be Hanbalis who are able to keep the Madhab alive and not die like many others, but in this day and age the resurgence Hanabilah has seen is not due to its own merits, but due to the calculated attacks that the scholars of the other Madhahib have been facing from scholars from certain sects. So you should really ponder upon the reasons for your attraction to the Madhab. Is it artificial or real? In addition, there will be a lot of difficulties in learning the Madhab, as even Musa Ferber has attested to. As for the website you have mentioned, I personally know the one who has written those articles, and would very much warn against it due to the blatant dishonesty exhibited within that website, as well as from my own personal dealings with the person. You said you have a Shaikh, why not ask him? salams there is no specific reason for switching. a student can gradually gravitate towards a particular contemporary scholar and in the same way one can be inclined to a particular classical scholar and his school. in response to your points about aqida and the link you provided about salafi mujassima. then that is not the path that i am on as they seem intent on delving into the howness of the attributes and expelling the asharis and maturidis from the ahla sunna and i'm not sure why exactly you think that I am on this path. I would advise you to purchase shaykh riyadh ul haq's lectures on aqidatul tahawiya from the al kawthar academy website which will help you to appreciate that there are 3 schools of sunni aqida. this is also clarified by mufti taqi usmani http://www.deoband.org/2010/04/hadit...utes-of-allah/ I accept your points regarding the hijacking of the hanbali school and I suppose this would be the danger in switching i.e that the lack of english speaking traditional hanbalis would mean that I would have to rely on those who have not truly embraced the hanbali school.
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