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**Stovegeothnon** · 05-16-2011, 05:57 PM

I'm interested to know the understanding of the hadith about the ummah splitting into 73 sects and only one being saved, does this mean that brelviz, sufi's, wahabi's, salafi's and hanbali's with wrong aqeedah will be in the hell fire? cos they are deviated sects? the hadith says all the sects are in the hell fire except for what me and my companions are upon.

First of all , as per hadeeth, yes, all other sects will be in hellfire who are not Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah .
Secondly , a few corrections :
Sufi , wahabi , hanbali, are not "sects".

Sufism is just a name given to the method of self-purification under a mentor. Whatever people have invented in the name of Sufism, is wrong, but not the deed itself.
This is just like Tableegh Jama'ah is not a sect. Or the Mujahideen groups are not "sects".

Hanbalis are a part of Ahlus sunnah wal Jama'ah. I believe what you're referring to as "hanbalis" is their aqeedah regarding the Attributes of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'aala, then remember that it's something debatable, and one's afterlife does not depend on how he presumes the Attributes of Allah Subhanahu wa ta'aala , since we haven't seen him ( not yet , but insha'Allah we all will ). Whether you believe in Athari school, Ash'ari, or Maturidi, it's still a part of Ahlus Sunnah.

Regarding Salafis, then salafis are again, not completely out of Ahlus sunnah either. The problem here is that since Salafis do not adhere to any particular thing at all, rather they're more like homeless people in the field of Islam, you can't be sure which one is upon the truth and which one isn't. So they're more like tramps.

05-16-2011, 05:57 PM	#6
Stovegeothnon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 508 Senior Member	I'm interested to know the understanding of the hadith about the ummah splitting into 73 sects and only one being saved, does this mean that brelviz, sufi's, wahabi's, salafi's and hanbali's with wrong aqeedah will be in the hell fire? cos they are deviated sects? the hadith says all the sects are in the hell fire except for what me and my companions are upon. First of all , as per hadeeth, yes, all other sects will be in hellfire who are not Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah . Secondly , a few corrections : Sufi , wahabi , hanbali, are not "sects". Sufism is just a name given to the method of self-purification under a mentor. Whatever people have invented in the name of Sufism, is wrong, but not the deed itself. This is just like Tableegh Jama'ah is not a sect. Or the Mujahideen groups are not "sects". Hanbalis are a part of Ahlus sunnah wal Jama'ah. I believe what you're referring to as "hanbalis" is their aqeedah regarding the Attributes of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'aala, then remember that it's something debatable, and one's afterlife does not depend on how he presumes the Attributes of Allah Subhanahu wa ta'aala , since we haven't seen him ( not yet , but insha'Allah we all will ). Whether you believe in Athari school, Ash'ari, or Maturidi, it's still a part of Ahlus Sunnah. Regarding Salafis, then salafis are again, not completely out of Ahlus sunnah either. The problem here is that since Salafis do not adhere to any particular thing at all, rather they're more like homeless people in the field of Islam, you can't be sure which one is upon the truth and which one isn't. So they're more like tramps.
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