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**Heopretg2006** · 05-01-2011, 11:08 AM

Yes, you are right,shaikh is mostly writing about those who are not real Awlia,but generally Hazrat Shaikh ul islam ra is not considered too sympathetic towards sufia either,so
his targets might be a bit wider than just fake sufi,s.wallaho alam.
One thing i know, Hazrat Shaikh ul Islam was respectful to shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani ra,and has even acknowledged his Karamat.

I have heard from reliable sources that not only he was in the Qadiri Tariqah himself, but that he was even a Shaykh in the silsila, I think it was Shaykh Ibn Qayyim

to give the silsila showing in it Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah

as his own Shaykh.

And Umar, Ahle sunnat have consensus that " Karamat of Awlia are Haq"The reason being Karamat is not from wali, it is from Allah swt to honour his wali.(as word karamat itself means:an honour),so we don,t need to find asbab behind it,because it is produced by musabbab ul asbab.

Right, I had forgotten this point!

05-01-2011, 11:08 AM	#39
Heopretg2006 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 531 Senior Member	Yes, you are right,shaikh is mostly writing about those who are not real Awlia,but generally Hazrat Shaikh ul islam ra is not considered too sympathetic towards sufia either,so his targets might be a bit wider than just fake sufi,s.wallaho alam. One thing i know, Hazrat Shaikh ul Islam was respectful to shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani ra,and has even acknowledged his Karamat. I have heard from reliable sources that not only he was in the Qadiri Tariqah himself, but that he was even a Shaykh in the silsila, I think it was Shaykh Ibn Qayyim to give the silsila showing in it Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah as his own Shaykh. And Umar, Ahle sunnat have consensus that " Karamat of Awlia are Haq"The reason being Karamat is not from wali, it is from Allah swt to honour his wali.(as word karamat itself means:an honour),so we don,t need to find asbab behind it,because it is produced by musabbab ul asbab. Right, I had forgotten this point!
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