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**Corporal White** · 04-15-2011, 09:42 PM

Thats exactly what I mean due to deobandi's having a 'strict' stance on certain issues and if one is also involved heavily with other groups,it could cause confusion. Mashallah that is great that your friend is enjoying the company of shaykh saleem.

I think Imam Abdassamads stance on that is very pragmatic and practical. Sometimes, the outer aspects are given so much importance(to a new revert) that the inner aspects of faith,belief are put to the side and when the excitement dies down of being a revert, doubts start to appear as the foundation was weak. Also, if a person makes to many outer changes too quickly, he might find it hard to adapt amongst family and friends and thus more obstacles may come which could have been handled differently.

See this is where people such as Imam Abdassammad could play a key role within other communities who do not have many reverts and thus may not know how to handle the situation.

The bold part above is not only applicable to the reverts , but also to any new recruit who recently join any Islamic group.

Often, the new recruit wants to get fit in with the group as soon as possible . So , he quickly acquire all the outer aspects of the group while remaining weak internally . To make the situation worse , the old group members think that the new recruit has fully embraced all the aspects of the group and start praising the new recruit without checking his foundation !!

Then what do you expect ? Burn-out , of course. Members are leaving the group even after 10 years !!

So , the age-old wisdom is that , make the basics strong ,make the root strongly embedded in the soil. Then the outer aspects , colorful flowers and petals , juicy fruits --all will come up in due time.

04-15-2011, 09:42 PM	#34
Corporal White Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	Thats exactly what I mean due to deobandi's having a 'strict' stance on certain issues and if one is also involved heavily with other groups,it could cause confusion. Mashallah that is great that your friend is enjoying the company of shaykh saleem. I think Imam Abdassamads stance on that is very pragmatic and practical. Sometimes, the outer aspects are given so much importance(to a new revert) that the inner aspects of faith,belief are put to the side and when the excitement dies down of being a revert, doubts start to appear as the foundation was weak. Also, if a person makes to many outer changes too quickly, he might find it hard to adapt amongst family and friends and thus more obstacles may come which could have been handled differently. See this is where people such as Imam Abdassammad could play a key role within other communities who do not have many reverts and thus may not know how to handle the situation. The bold part above is not only applicable to the reverts , but also to any new recruit who recently join any Islamic group. Often, the new recruit wants to get fit in with the group as soon as possible . So , he quickly acquire all the outer aspects of the group while remaining weak internally . To make the situation worse , the old group members think that the new recruit has fully embraced all the aspects of the group and start praising the new recruit without checking his foundation !! Then what do you expect ? Burn-out , of course. Members are leaving the group even after 10 years !! So , the age-old wisdom is that , make the basics strong ,make the root strongly embedded in the soil. Then the outer aspects , colorful flowers and petals , juicy fruits --all will come up in due time.
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