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**UTHZzJ6f** · 04-22-2011, 02:27 PM

The most famous being the grand father of Sa'eed ibn Musayyib r.a.

حَدَّثَنَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ مُوسَى حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامٌ أَنَّ ابْنَ جُرَيْجٍ أَخْبَرَهُمْ قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي عَبْدُ الْحَمِيدِ بْنُ جُبَيْرِ بْنِ شَيْبَةَ قَالَ جَلَسْتُ إِلَى سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْمُسَيَّبِ فَحَدَّثَنِي أَنَّ جَدَّهُ حَزْنًا قَدِمَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَقَالَ مَا اسْمُكَ قَالَ اسْمِي حَزْنٌ قَالَ بَلْ أَنْتَ سَهْلٌ قَالَ مَا أَنَا بِمُغَيِّرٍ اسْمًا سَمَّانِيهِ أَبِي قَالَ ابْنُ الْمُسَيَّبِ فَمَا زَالَتْ فِينَا الْحُزُونَةُ بَعْدُ

Its wrong to conclude your point from this Hadith. The matter is purely related to a wrath which came as the result of opposing the view of Prophet PBUH not because of any effect of the name itself. Ibn Hajjar in Fatah ul Bari says in the explaination of this Hadith

Ibn at-Tin said: "What Ibn al-Musayyib meant when he said "...this sadness has remained in our lineage ever since," is the absence of an ease in acquiring anything they want. "
ad-Dawudi said: "He meant that they always have some type of harshness in their mannerisms, except that Sa'id's harshness was directed into anger for the Sake of Allah."
Others have said: "This is an indication of the harshness that has remained in the character of his descendants, as the experts in lineage have mentioned that the character of all of his descendants are well-known for bad manners that have not left them until now."
['Fath al-Bari'; 10/590]

04-22-2011, 02:27 PM	#13
UTHZzJ6f Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	The most famous being the grand father of Sa'eed ibn Musayyib r.a. حَدَّثَنَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ مُوسَى حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامٌ أَنَّ ابْنَ جُرَيْجٍ أَخْبَرَهُمْ قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي عَبْدُ الْحَمِيدِ بْنُ جُبَيْرِ بْنِ شَيْبَةَ قَالَ جَلَسْتُ إِلَى سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْمُسَيَّبِ فَحَدَّثَنِي أَنَّ جَدَّهُ حَزْنًا قَدِمَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَقَالَ مَا اسْمُكَ قَالَ اسْمِي حَزْنٌ قَالَ بَلْ أَنْتَ سَهْلٌ قَالَ مَا أَنَا بِمُغَيِّرٍ اسْمًا سَمَّانِيهِ أَبِي قَالَ ابْنُ الْمُسَيَّبِ فَمَا زَالَتْ فِينَا الْحُزُونَةُ بَعْدُ Its wrong to conclude your point from this Hadith. The matter is purely related to a wrath which came as the result of opposing the view of Prophet PBUH not because of any effect of the name itself. Ibn Hajjar in Fatah ul Bari says in the explaination of this Hadith Ibn at-Tin said: "What Ibn al-Musayyib meant when he said "...this sadness has remained in our lineage ever since," is the absence of an ease in acquiring anything they want. " ad-Dawudi said: "He meant that they always have some type of harshness in their mannerisms, except that Sa'id's harshness was directed into anger for the Sake of Allah." Others have said: "This is an indication of the harshness that has remained in the character of his descendants, as the experts in lineage have mentioned that the character of all of his descendants are well-known for bad manners that have not left them until now." ['Fath al-Bari'; 10/590]
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