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**exschke** · 04-06-2011, 06:44 PM

This article is a slanted, propaganda piece designed to draw political distinctions and project conflict.

First, Egypt is a mess and has been for over 30 years. If so called sufis have been accepting of the mess that is Egypt, then they are undeserving of any consideration to be tied to the righteous shuyukh who they claim to follow.

Second, the worship of saints and shrines is shirk and unacceptable in Islam. Anyone who accepts this is openly in violation of Islam.

Third, if the reaction of so called sufis is to threaten violence to protect saint worship, then they are NOT sufis, rather they are defenders of shirk.

Fourth, the Egyptian people have to be educated on Islam again. And that should happen through the leadership of an Islamic state and amir. All Muslims should be together on this. Shrines, tombs, etc mean nothing compared to reviving Islam in the lives of 85 million Muslims.

Fifth, you have to ask yourself: is it better to see a society which implements Islam and practices and develops Islam in the lives of people, or is it better to stay as things are?

Exactly.

It's probably obvious by now to most people, but whenever a media piece references "Salafis," it is actually referring to fundamentalists, including Deobandis and other proper Sufi groups, and whenever they mention "Sufi," they actually mean people like Nazim Haqqani, or even worse in many cases.

04-06-2011, 06:44 PM	#4
exschke Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 546 Senior Member	This article is a slanted, propaganda piece designed to draw political distinctions and project conflict. First, Egypt is a mess and has been for over 30 years. If so called sufis have been accepting of the mess that is Egypt, then they are undeserving of any consideration to be tied to the righteous shuyukh who they claim to follow. Second, the worship of saints and shrines is shirk and unacceptable in Islam. Anyone who accepts this is openly in violation of Islam. Third, if the reaction of so called sufis is to threaten violence to protect saint worship, then they are NOT sufis, rather they are defenders of shirk. Fourth, the Egyptian people have to be educated on Islam again. And that should happen through the leadership of an Islamic state and amir. All Muslims should be together on this. Shrines, tombs, etc mean nothing compared to reviving Islam in the lives of 85 million Muslims. Fifth, you have to ask yourself: is it better to see a society which implements Islam and practices and develops Islam in the lives of people, or is it better to stay as things are? Exactly. It's probably obvious by now to most people, but whenever a media piece references "Salafis," it is actually referring to fundamentalists, including Deobandis and other proper Sufi groups, and whenever they mention "Sufi," they actually mean people like Nazim Haqqani, or even worse in many cases.
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