He made Takfir of Deobandi scholars some 11/12 years later from the time of ikhtilaaf between him and them, once he became sure they wont repent, he made Takfir and had the Fatwah attested by Ulamah of Haramain, and then published it as Hasam Ul Haramain. Ismail Dehalvi he didnt declare Kaffir but stated that his statements are kuffr. He did not make Takfir on him due to Ismail Dehalvi has passed away before him, and he could not make SHARA'EE hujjat which is pre-requisite of Takfir. And due to that fact he did not declare him Kaffir. In light of these facts people those who say he Takfir gun, may Allah guide them. My advice is PAKI maulvi's appologetics disgusting, due to two reasons, one the awam they adress are knowledge wise nill, secondly the awam as strong sense of belonging, and due to these two facts, maulvis get away with lies, exagerations. If people had knowledge they would know its wrong, and if they had less sense of belonging to a sect, they would speak up against it. But currently the situation is that anything goes against the other, as long as public is excited, and shouting Allahu Akhbar, and Deoband Zindabad, Barelwi Zindabad, Nara e Risalat ya RasoolAllah, anything goes, as long as people are happy, and excited, anything is legitamate weapon against the other side. And I realised this very very early in my BIDDAT, SHIRK, KUFR, MUSHRIK, KAFFIR, shouting days. Deobandi: Barelwis dont beleive RasoolAllah is human being, yet Quran says he is, here is proof. Me: O Barelwi stupid person why dont you beleive prophet is human being, Quran says he is here is the evidence. Barelwi: You are liar, we beleive he is bashr, imam ahmad raza said it here, one who does beleive prophet is bashr, such a person is kaffir, and Quran says it here and here he is bashr, and hadith here and here, how dare you acuse me of not beleiving. Me: my brother {to deobandi} i had discussion with MUSHRIK BARELWI he said he beleives in bashariat and showed the proof from ahmad razas book. Deobandi: You see they beleive he is Noor, Noor not of guidance but Noor in body like angles, thats why they dont beleive in humaness of prophet of Allah. Me: oye Mushrik grave worshipping BARELWI, you beleive he is Noor thats why you beleive he is not bashr, thats why you become kaffir. Barelwi: Well I beleive he is Bashr, but i beleive he is Noor as well, like i beleive Jibraeel is Noor who became Bashr when he went to maryam alayhis salam. Me: well Barelwi, and Deobandi i organised this debate between you to to decide who is right, i get confused when i meet the other so u talk and i will decide on that. Barelwi: i beleive he is Bashr and Noor, Deobandi: but there is no proof that he is Noor. Me: {And then my thinking mode kicked in}, well so you know he beleives in humaness of Prophet? Deobandi: yeah Me: why dint you tell me that. Deobandi: it was technical, and complex and i didnt want to confuse you. Me: so you told me the half lie and half truth And i can make up a a realistic situation where a BARELWI misrepresents a Deobandi Aqeedah. Barelwi: Deobandis dont be in knowledge of ghayb of RasoolAllah. Me: Deobandi why dont you beleive in Ilm Ghayb of RasoolAllah, here is the proof. Deobandi: Only Allah knows Ghayb, and your proof is not of Ilm e Ghayb, but akhbar e ghayb, ittla alal ghayb, mushayda alal ghayb, amba alal ghayb, izhar al ghayb, not of ilm al ghayb. And after arguing senselessly for years between the both, I REALISED THAT THE IKHTILAAF IS DUE TO DIFFERENCE IN DEFINITIN OF ILM E GHAYB. And not in beleife, what Barelwis consitute proof of Ilm e Ghayb Deobandis consider it either akhbar, ittla, amba, mushayda of ghayb. Let me explain, if i define darkness as: a time of day where sun shines bright, and day was time when you cant see very well, and everyone goes to sleep in that period, and there is someone with normal definition of these regardless of what evidence i presented we wont be able to agree on it, cause our definition of day and night mean different, so when you present evidence to prove day, it others definition it will be evidence of night, and vice versa, Now the Paki, and Indian molvies wont tell you this, and neither will the Barelwi and Deobandi Maulvis cause to advance their own religious beleives they have to demonise the other, if they give the balanced few, and honest one, then people will be like okay fine so not much wrong with them. Each side is wroking to paint the HORRIABLE UGLIEST PICTURE OF THE OTHER, in the hope that their side doesnt join their oppossers, and opposers side when they see their own ugly picture which we painted of them they will join us. And i had severe depression because of this, each side was being the holy pious of the Allah, when you sit with them and ask questions, each side was being the victim who is being kicked while they are on the floor, each side was saying they kick us, we dont even point finger at them, it got to a stage where i was at verge of becomming ATHEIST, and renounce Islam. And with duas Allah increased my knowledge, and guided me to level of understanding of matter that i began to see what i was blind to. I use to make dua for guidance, that o Allah make those people my guide who are on straight path, the path of the blessed, and i use recite Surah Fatiha alot, and always said o Allah guide me to those scholars in this era whom you have blessed, and Allah opned the gates of guidance for me. Allah guided me spiritually, after some period of four five months, I was ready to take on the ikhtilaafi issues, indipendantly of guidance of Ulamah. Took time of 14 years to get to where I am now, but worth it, steped into darkness, and now apreciate the light of the day. If you cant do what i did i advise, remain silent, neither denounce nor support, say Allah knows best.