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**PheliarearY** · 03-18-2011, 06:26 AM

BismiLlah . . .
as-salamu 'alaykum wa rahmatuLlah . . .

1) I do not subscribe to the divergent views of Hasan 'Ali as-Saqqaf, who is not known with the laqab 'Habib', nor Shaykh 'AbduLlah al-Harari. If you continue to assert that I follow these two personalities, you will be lying, and a mu'min does not lie. BarakaLlahu fik.

2) I am totally fine if, while taking it 'upon the dhahir', you negate tashbih and tamthil, in such a way that Allah is not characterized as being bound by His creation of location. There are, however, a few inconsistencies in this method, and it is thus that I perform tafwid al-ma'na, according to the ash'ari school, which Imam Muhammad Hayat as-Sindi [rahimahuLlah] too subscribed to as per my knowledge.

Would you please re-formulate your crticism of the ash'ari methodology in terms of the sifaat of Allah (wujud, qidam . . .) from your last post here, clearly, so that I can, in turn, respond to the specific issues which you find problematic? jazakum Allah khayran

Please do present those specific quotes from the Imam; in the process of doing so, please address the quotes I've presented.

was-salam

03-18-2011, 06:26 AM	#7
PheliarearY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 581 Senior Member	BismiLlah . . . as-salamu 'alaykum wa rahmatuLlah . . . 1) I do not subscribe to the divergent views of Hasan 'Ali as-Saqqaf, who is not known with the laqab 'Habib', nor Shaykh 'AbduLlah al-Harari. If you continue to assert that I follow these two personalities, you will be lying, and a mu'min does not lie. BarakaLlahu fik. 2) I am totally fine if, while taking it 'upon the dhahir', you negate tashbih and tamthil, in such a way that Allah is not characterized as being bound by His creation of location. There are, however, a few inconsistencies in this method, and it is thus that I perform tafwid al-ma'na, according to the ash'ari school, which Imam Muhammad Hayat as-Sindi [rahimahuLlah] too subscribed to as per my knowledge. Would you please re-formulate your crticism of the ash'ari methodology in terms of the sifaat of Allah (wujud, qidam . . .) from your last post here, clearly, so that I can, in turn, respond to the specific issues which you find problematic? jazakum Allah khayran Please do present those specific quotes from the Imam; in the process of doing so, please address the quotes I've presented. was-salam
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