@ suleimanibnsalim I had written a long post but the browser crashed. anyway, the point is that we have to unbiased and examine arguments from both sides. I think you understand the Ashari creed better than me so, I would be asking you to explain me. What does Imam al-Haramain Abul Ma`ali Juwayni mean about TWO HANDS TWO EYES FACE in his book al-Irshad ?? suleimanibnsalim I want you to explain to me the position of Imam Haramayn on Two Hands, Two Eyes and Face...... what does it mean ?