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**st01en_lox** · 04-07-2011, 01:29 AM

Dear Hasan1,

Walaikumussalaam.

While Nasr certainly does have a long list of credentials, he is not, as far as I know, a peer-acknowledged ‘aalim in any of the Islamic sciences, which is not a criticism but also something to bear in mind when Nasr expresses views divergent from those generally accepted by the scholars of the Ahl as Sunnah wal Jama’ah.

In short, your argument consists of: Nasr is not an Ahl Sunnah scholar, therefor, whatever his qualifications, he lacks authority and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Error, even if presented beautifully and eloquently (and repeatedly), remains error.

As is the error of repeatedly presenting an argument to authority, i.e., the argument of taqlid, to a position arrived at through individual tahqiq and based upon an intellectual discipline. You seem fixated on authority and "official Islam." Your response to every argument is whether or not it corresponds with the corporate body. You've not really dealt with the arguments in and of themselves. I've tried to get you to deal with the arguments, but you disappear, and then reappear with the "authority argument."

Not sure where to go from here Hayraan. . .

04-07-2011, 01:29 AM	#38
st01en_lox Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 414 Senior Member	Dear Hasan1, Walaikumussalaam. While Nasr certainly does have a long list of credentials, he is not, as far as I know, a peer-acknowledged ‘aalim in any of the Islamic sciences, which is not a criticism but also something to bear in mind when Nasr expresses views divergent from those generally accepted by the scholars of the Ahl as Sunnah wal Jama’ah. In short, your argument consists of: Nasr is not an Ahl Sunnah scholar, therefor, whatever his qualifications, he lacks authority and shouldn't be taken seriously. Error, even if presented beautifully and eloquently (and repeatedly), remains error. As is the error of repeatedly presenting an argument to authority, i.e., the argument of taqlid, to a position arrived at through individual tahqiq and based upon an intellectual discipline. You seem fixated on authority and "official Islam." Your response to every argument is whether or not it corresponds with the corporate body. You've not really dealt with the arguments in and of themselves. I've tried to get you to deal with the arguments, but you disappear, and then reappear with the "authority argument." Not sure where to go from here Hayraan. . .
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