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**Gadarett** · 04-04-2011, 10:23 PM

Question 1:

Even khulafa of our Akaabireen are veering off into bid’ah. If there is a Tariqah which does not conflict with the Shariah, and its objective is purely Islaah-e-Nafs, then in our view it is Waajib to
join such a Tariqah. [B]If there are still such Tariqahs, we are unaware of them. There may be. Allah Ta’ala knows best.

Hadhrat Shaikh Zakariyyah grabbed hold of Hadhrat Masihullah, and broke down crying, and saying: ‘Take care of the khaanqas. All the khanqas are now desolate (weeraan).

Brother, all the khaanqas which exist nowadays are not even shadows of khaanqas. Their emphasis is on halqah thikr, singing nazams, and eating sumptuous foods. Wallaah! Many of the khulafa have no understanding of the meaning of ‘Islaah’, hence they stay in business with halqah thikr.

If you know of a valid Khaanqah which emphasizes on Islaah-e-Nafs and which is free of bid’ah and nonsense, consider it a wonderful Ni’mat, and cling to it.

May Allah Ta’ala keep you with aafiyat.

Was-salaam

A.S. Desai

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Salams

I am probably going to get a kicking for this....

But is this for real?

The khanqahs are now veeran? isnt that phrase of hadhrat sheikh taken out of context just a little bit? dont forget hadhrat sheikh used to emphasise the khanqhas because Allah's name was taken there, people islah was happening there. He undertook a journey to S.A just in the hope of reviving the khanqah system. His own khanqah was under the supervision of Maulana Talha during his lifetime, i have seen that same khanqah still alive and kicking and in ramadhan its there with full force. Maulana Hakeem Akhtar sahibs khanqah is still there, with full force, Maulana Zulfiqaar's khanqah systems works and is there in force. There seems to be more naqshbandi's now than previously. The Khanqah system of raipur is still alive, i have not been there but heard things about raipur. Maulana Yunus Jaunpuri still holds regular dhikr sessions daily and durood majlis on Fridays desipte of his frail health. He regularly holds ramadhan khanqah too. Maulana Yusuf Motala holds a service on Thursdays at his darul uloom, he is contactable at other times, Maulana Saleem Dhorat has a khanqah which is on the ascendancy, Maulana Adam has a full fledged khanqah too in Leicester.

With regards to dhikr, i have not heard Maulana Talha nor Sheikh Maulana Yunus Saheb's dhikr sessions where the dhikr is in unison. Mufti Mehmud Gangohi r.a gave a fatawa against it. Mufti Ebrahim Desai doesnt promote it.

As we are on the subject of naat, Maulana Thanvi's khanqah used to have naat in them. In what context i do not know. There is a famous naat written by his biographer which is still recited in circles now.

Naat's of Qari Muhammed Tayyib saheb are famous, he was a khalifa of Hadhrat Thanvi, Maulana Muhammed Ahmed Sahib Partabgadhi was a giant in Tariqat and he has many beautiful naat written in books which to date people sing.

Haji Saheb r.a used to write poems of his love for his sheikh and the Prophet Sallalahu Alayhi Wassalam. Isnt he seen as the source of tassawuf for all deobandi's?

Mufti Saheb doesnt know any that these people exist?? How can he give advice to someone when being totally ignorant of the effort that is already being made by the scholars i have mentioned.

I say totally ignorant in the context that he either musnt know these scholars iv mentioned exist or if he does then he must think they are not doing the job properly.
Also with regards to the definition of khanqah. These days if you have the Grand Sheikh of Tariqah in every town and gave him a building from where to perform islah of the masses due to our worldly commitments hardly anyone would attend. That isnt the fault of the Sheikh, nor does it literally mean the Khanqah is in ruins. It is the fault of the people, the people make the khanqah aabaad or veraan!!

04-04-2011, 10:23 PM	#12
Gadarett Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	Question 1: Even khulafa of our Akaabireen are veering off into bid’ah. If there is a Tariqah which does not conflict with the Shariah, and its objective is purely Islaah-e-Nafs, then in our view it is Waajib to join such a Tariqah. [B]If there are still such Tariqahs, we are unaware of them. There may be. Allah Ta’ala knows best. Hadhrat Shaikh Zakariyyah grabbed hold of Hadhrat Masihullah, and broke down crying, and saying: ‘Take care of the khaanqas. All the khanqas are now desolate (weeraan). Brother, all the khaanqas which exist nowadays are not even shadows of khaanqas. Their emphasis is on halqah thikr, singing nazams, and eating sumptuous foods. Wallaah! Many of the khulafa have no understanding of the meaning of ‘Islaah’, hence they stay in business with halqah thikr. If you know of a valid Khaanqah which emphasizes on Islaah-e-Nafs and which is free of bid’ah and nonsense, consider it a wonderful Ni’mat, and cling to it. May Allah Ta’ala keep you with aafiyat. Was-salaam A.S. Desai [/COLOR] Salams I am probably going to get a kicking for this.... But is this for real? The khanqahs are now veeran? isnt that phrase of hadhrat sheikh taken out of context just a little bit? dont forget hadhrat sheikh used to emphasise the khanqhas because Allah's name was taken there, people islah was happening there. He undertook a journey to S.A just in the hope of reviving the khanqah system. His own khanqah was under the supervision of Maulana Talha during his lifetime, i have seen that same khanqah still alive and kicking and in ramadhan its there with full force. Maulana Hakeem Akhtar sahibs khanqah is still there, with full force, Maulana Zulfiqaar's khanqah systems works and is there in force. There seems to be more naqshbandi's now than previously. The Khanqah system of raipur is still alive, i have not been there but heard things about raipur. Maulana Yunus Jaunpuri still holds regular dhikr sessions daily and durood majlis on Fridays desipte of his frail health. He regularly holds ramadhan khanqah too. Maulana Yusuf Motala holds a service on Thursdays at his darul uloom, he is contactable at other times, Maulana Saleem Dhorat has a khanqah which is on the ascendancy, Maulana Adam has a full fledged khanqah too in Leicester. With regards to dhikr, i have not heard Maulana Talha nor Sheikh Maulana Yunus Saheb's dhikr sessions where the dhikr is in unison. Mufti Mehmud Gangohi r.a gave a fatawa against it. Mufti Ebrahim Desai doesnt promote it. As we are on the subject of naat, Maulana Thanvi's khanqah used to have naat in them. In what context i do not know. There is a famous naat written by his biographer which is still recited in circles now. Naat's of Qari Muhammed Tayyib saheb are famous, he was a khalifa of Hadhrat Thanvi, Maulana Muhammed Ahmed Sahib Partabgadhi was a giant in Tariqat and he has many beautiful naat written in books which to date people sing. Haji Saheb r.a used to write poems of his love for his sheikh and the Prophet Sallalahu Alayhi Wassalam. Isnt he seen as the source of tassawuf for all deobandi's? Mufti Saheb doesnt know any that these people exist?? How can he give advice to someone when being totally ignorant of the effort that is already being made by the scholars i have mentioned. I say totally ignorant in the context that he either musnt know these scholars iv mentioned exist or if he does then he must think they are not doing the job properly. Also with regards to the definition of khanqah. These days if you have the Grand Sheikh of Tariqah in every town and gave him a building from where to perform islah of the masses due to our worldly commitments hardly anyone would attend. That isnt the fault of the Sheikh, nor does it literally mean the Khanqah is in ruins. It is the fault of the people, the people make the khanqah aabaad or veraan!!
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