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**bikersfan** · 08-28-2010, 08:11 PM

Assalam aleykoum brother,

RAMADAN moubarak you and all your family.

If we can speak when we will be dead and if we can hear, we can see we are alive , no ?

If we are alive, Allah SWT does not need to rise us from the dead.

Allah SWT rise from dead a dead people or alive ? because we can talk and hear ?????

Assalam aleykoum brother, I ask Allah SWT to guide us and to forgive us, amin.

I will try to prepare a reply with verses of the Quran inshallah and give you proof thet the grave punishment also is an invention after the death of our prophete Mohamed SWS.

My Dear Brother, Stefane, Assalaamoalaikum

When we say that the dead hears, when we say that the dead can speak, we are referring to the soul and not to the dead body (the corpse) that, in general, becomes dust. So, the soul is still the soul. Only its envelope for this material world, the body, has died.

When Allah(SWT) Says that He will raise the dead on the Day of Judgment, He may be Saying that He will collect all the souls or He may be meaning that He will make the dust become body again and get the soul into the new body and raise us all alive as we are on this earth. I believe He is the ONLY ONE who has the answer.

But remember when Ibrahim(AS) asked Allah(SWT) to show him how Allah(SWT) would raise the dead:

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Behold! abraham said: "My Lord! Show me how Thou givest life to the dead." He said: "Dost thou not then believe?" He said: "Yea! but to satisfy My own undertaking." He said: "Take four birds; Tame them to turn to thee; put a portion of them on every hill and call to them: They will come to thee (Flying) with speed. Then know that Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise."   (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #260)

Regarding your allusion to punishment in the grave, may I ask you a question: What is your belief concerning the sahih collections of hadiths? Notwithstanding this question, I would certainly await your reply with proofs from the Holy Qur'an. Insh'Allah.

Brotherly yours
farook

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bikersfan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 390 Senior Member	Assalam aleykoum brother, RAMADAN moubarak you and all your family. If we can speak when we will be dead and if we can hear, we can see we are alive , no ? If we are alive, Allah SWT does not need to rise us from the dead. Allah SWT rise from dead a dead people or alive ? because we can talk and hear ????? Assalam aleykoum brother, I ask Allah SWT to guide us and to forgive us, amin. I will try to prepare a reply with verses of the Quran inshallah and give you proof thet the grave punishment also is an invention after the death of our prophete Mohamed SWS. My Dear Brother, Stefane, Assalaamoalaikum When we say that the dead hears, when we say that the dead can speak, we are referring to the soul and not to the dead body (the corpse) that, in general, becomes dust. So, the soul is still the soul. Only its envelope for this material world, the body, has died. When Allah(SWT) Says that He will raise the dead on the Day of Judgment, He may be Saying that He will collect all the souls or He may be meaning that He will make the dust become body again and get the soul into the new body and raise us all alive as we are on this earth. I believe He is the ONLY ONE who has the answer. But remember when Ibrahim(AS) asked Allah(SWT) to show him how Allah(SWT) would raise the dead: HTML Code: Code Behold! abraham said: "My Lord! Show me how Thou givest life to the dead." He said: "Dost thou not then believe?" He said: "Yea! but to satisfy My own undertaking." He said: "Take four birds; Tame them to turn to thee; put a portion of them on every hill and call to them: They will come to thee (Flying) with speed. Then know that Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise." ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #260) Regarding your allusion to punishment in the grave, may I ask you a question: What is your belief concerning the sahih collections of hadiths? Notwithstanding this question, I would certainly await your reply with proofs from the Holy Qur'an. Insh'Allah. Brotherly yours farook
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