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**Theariwinna** · 09-05-2010, 04:50 AM

My Dear Brother, Stefane, Assalaamoalaikum

When we say that the dead hears, when we say that the dead can speak, we are referring to the soul and not to the dead body (the corpse) that, in general, becomes dust. So, the soul is still the soul. Only its envelope for this material world, the body, has died.

When Allah(SWT) Says that He will raise the dead on the Day of Judgment, He may be Saying that He will collect all the souls or He may be meaning that He will make the dust become body again and get the soul into the new body and raise us all alive as we are on this earth. I believe He is the ONLY ONE who has the answer.

But remember when Ibrahim(AS) asked Allah(SWT) to show him how Allah(SWT) would raise the dead:

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Behold! abraham said: "My Lord! Show me how Thou givest life to the dead." He said: "Dost thou not then believe?" He said: "Yea! but to satisfy My own undertaking." He said: "Take four birds; Tame them to turn to thee; put a portion of them on every hill and call to them: They will come to thee (Flying) with speed. Then know that Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise."   (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #260)
Regarding your allusion to punishment in the grave, may I ask you a question: What is your belief concerning the sahih collections of hadiths? Notwithstanding this question, I would certainly await your reply with proofs from the Holy Qur'an. Insh'Allah.

Brotherly yours
farook

Assalam aleykoum brother Farook.

Its stephane again, but I changed my username.

I Will start with a verse in the Quran and tell me what do you understand.

Because my english is not quite good, if you understand french ? lol.

English Yusuf Ali: [18:49]And the Book (of Deeds) will be placed (before you); and thou wilt see the sinful in great terror because of what is (recorded) therein; they will say, "Ah! woe to us! what a Book is this! It leaves out nothing small or great, but takes account thereof!" They will find all that they did, placed before them: And not one will thy Lord treat with injustice.

Can you tell me whay personns are in great terror when they get their book ?

If they are terrified on that day, why they were not terrified in the grave ?

Verse 49 : and thou wilt see the sinful in great terror

Great terror how its possible ?

They were not informed in the grave following your beleif that they will go to hell, because in the grave they know if they go to hell or not ?

Do you know why they are terrified in great terror ? because before that day they have never known what will be their destination its the fisr time, nothing in the grave.

If you understand something else I will be glad to share with you for the truth.

Assalam aleykoum brother.

Once again, RAMADAN MOUBARAK to you sisters and brothers and all your family.

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Theariwinna Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 730 Senior Member	My Dear Brother, Stefane, Assalaamoalaikum When we say that the dead hears, when we say that the dead can speak, we are referring to the soul and not to the dead body (the corpse) that, in general, becomes dust. So, the soul is still the soul. Only its envelope for this material world, the body, has died. When Allah(SWT) Says that He will raise the dead on the Day of Judgment, He may be Saying that He will collect all the souls or He may be meaning that He will make the dust become body again and get the soul into the new body and raise us all alive as we are on this earth. I believe He is the ONLY ONE who has the answer. But remember when Ibrahim(AS) asked Allah(SWT) to show him how Allah(SWT) would raise the dead: HTML Code: Code Behold! abraham said: "My Lord! Show me how Thou givest life to the dead." He said: "Dost thou not then believe?" He said: "Yea! but to satisfy My own undertaking." He said: "Take four birds; Tame them to turn to thee; put a portion of them on every hill and call to them: They will come to thee (Flying) with speed. Then know that Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise." ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #260) Regarding your allusion to punishment in the grave, may I ask you a question: What is your belief concerning the sahih collections of hadiths? Notwithstanding this question, I would certainly await your reply with proofs from the Holy Qur'an. Insh'Allah. Brotherly yours farook Assalam aleykoum brother Farook. Its stephane again, but I changed my username. I Will start with a verse in the Quran and tell me what do you understand. Because my english is not quite good, if you understand french ? lol. English Yusuf Ali: [18:49]And the Book (of Deeds) will be placed (before you); and thou wilt see the sinful in great terror because of what is (recorded) therein; they will say, "Ah! woe to us! what a Book is this! It leaves out nothing small or great, but takes account thereof!" They will find all that they did, placed before them: And not one will thy Lord treat with injustice. Can you tell me whay personns are in great terror when they get their book ? If they are terrified on that day, why they were not terrified in the grave ? Verse 49 : and thou wilt see the sinful in great terror Great terror how its possible ? They were not informed in the grave following your beleif that they will go to hell, because in the grave they know if they go to hell or not ? Do you know why they are terrified in great terror ? because before that day they have never known what will be their destination its the fisr time, nothing in the grave. If you understand something else I will be glad to share with you for the truth. Assalam aleykoum brother. Once again, RAMADAN MOUBARAK to you sisters and brothers and all your family.
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