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**Theariwinna** · 10-17-2010, 12:29 AM

My dear Brother Stefane, Assalaamoalaikum

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English Yusuf Ali: [10:45]One day He will gather them together: [B](It will be) as if they had tarried but an hour of a day[/B]: they will recognise each other: assuredly those will be lost who denied the meeting with Allah and refused to receive true guidance.
When we try to understand the meaning of a verse, we should not take the verse out of context and look for its meaning. The verse you have quoted above, follows a few other verses where, inter alia, Allah(SWT) is telling the Holy Messenger(SAW) that he cannot guide the deaf and the blind (figurative sense of course). After this, he reveals the verse you have quoted.

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One day He will gather them together
No doubt, this is the Day of Judgment, when ALL will be gathered together.

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(It will be) as if they had tarried but an hour of a day
Tarried but an hour of a day - Tarried where? In the grave? NO. Allah(SWT) is here referring to the time spent by man in this world - albeit including the time spent in the grave. This hour of which Allah(SWT) is speaking, is not our hour. It is an hour in Allah's(SWT) world - the astral world where one day is equivalent to 50,000 of our years (Holy Qur'an). So, when Allah(SWT) Says "one hour", He is referring to His Time Scale. So, your obseravtion / question regarding punishment in the grave of duration one hour is WRONG.

Let us now go back to your post at #15, and to this verse that you quoted:

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English Yusuf Ali: [25:47]And He it is Who makes the Night as a Robe for you, and Sleep as Repose, and makes the Day (as it were) a Resurrection.
Here Allah(SWT) is referring to the night in this world of ours, night during which we sleep and take rest. Although we are sleeping, it is as if we are dead, and when we wake up in the morning when it is daylight, it is as if we have been ressurrected. Please note that when we sleep, the soul may leave the body but it is still attached to it, whereas when we die the soul is no longer attached to the body.
This verse has no direct relevance to our discussion regarding "Punishment in the graves". In fact, I would qualify it as being IRRELEVANT.

My dear Brother Stefane, I hope, Insh'Allah, that the above explanations will be of help. Please do also refer to the various quotations in the post of our brother fahid - in particular, that in which mention is made of more than one punishment - the last being the one to be inflicted on the Last Day. - that would be the ULTIMATE one.

Brotherly yours
farook

Assalam aleykoum brother,

Sorry but you get it wrong, why are talking about the time comparation and one hour of the day, I can not get you. ?

Let study once again the VERSE 45 of the Suraha 10.

Surah 10

45. One day He will gather them together: (It will be) as if they had tarried but an hour of a day: they will recognise each other: assuredly those will be lost who denied the meeting with Allah and refused to receive true guidance.

Its about you and me and all human, where did Allah SWT is talking about 50 000 years ?

At the day of the resurection people they say for them its like they have been stayed in the grave only one hour, why are you inventing things brother ?

Can you tell me what is the AIM of a grave punishment of one hour ?

Becarefull brother do not lie about Allah SWT, do not say things that Allah SWT did not send any proff about it.

The grave punishment its an invention spread after the death of the prophete Mohamed SWS.

Assalam aleykoum.

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Theariwinna Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 730 Senior Member	My dear Brother Stefane, Assalaamoalaikum HTML Code: Code English Yusuf Ali: [10:45]One day He will gather them together: [B](It will be) as if they had tarried but an hour of a day[/B]: they will recognise each other: assuredly those will be lost who denied the meeting with Allah and refused to receive true guidance. When we try to understand the meaning of a verse, we should not take the verse out of context and look for its meaning. The verse you have quoted above, follows a few other verses where, inter alia, Allah(SWT) is telling the Holy Messenger(SAW) that he cannot guide the deaf and the blind (figurative sense of course). After this, he reveals the verse you have quoted. HTML Code: Code One day He will gather them together No doubt, this is the Day of Judgment, when ALL will be gathered together. HTML Code: Code (It will be) as if they had tarried but an hour of a day Tarried but an hour of a day - Tarried where? In the grave? NO. Allah(SWT) is here referring to the time spent by man in this world - albeit including the time spent in the grave. This hour of which Allah(SWT) is speaking, is not our hour. It is an hour in Allah's(SWT) world - the astral world where one day is equivalent to 50,000 of our years (Holy Qur'an). So, when Allah(SWT) Says "one hour", He is referring to His Time Scale. So, your obseravtion / question regarding punishment in the grave of duration one hour is WRONG. Let us now go back to your post at #15, and to this verse that you quoted: HTML Code: Code English Yusuf Ali: [25:47]And He it is Who makes the Night as a Robe for you, and Sleep as Repose, and makes the Day (as it were) a Resurrection. Here Allah(SWT) is referring to the night in this world of ours, night during which we sleep and take rest. Although we are sleeping, it is as if we are dead, and when we wake up in the morning when it is daylight, it is as if we have been ressurrected. Please note that when we sleep, the soul may leave the body but it is still attached to it, whereas when we die the soul is no longer attached to the body. This verse has no direct relevance to our discussion regarding "Punishment in the graves". In fact, I would qualify it as being IRRELEVANT. My dear Brother Stefane, I hope, Insh'Allah, that the above explanations will be of help. Please do also refer to the various quotations in the post of our brother fahid - in particular, that in which mention is made of more than one punishment - the last being the one to be inflicted on the Last Day. - that would be the ULTIMATE one. Brotherly yours farook Assalam aleykoum brother, Sorry but you get it wrong, why are talking about the time comparation and one hour of the day, I can not get you. ? Let study once again the VERSE 45 of the Suraha 10. Surah 10 45. One day He will gather them together: (It will be) as if they had tarried but an hour of a day: they will recognise each other: assuredly those will be lost who denied the meeting with Allah and refused to receive true guidance. Its about you and me and all human, where did Allah SWT is talking about 50 000 years ? At the day of the resurection people they say for them its like they have been stayed in the grave only one hour, why are you inventing things brother ? Can you tell me what is the AIM of a grave punishment of one hour ? Becarefull brother do not lie about Allah SWT, do not say things that Allah SWT did not send any proff about it. The grave punishment its an invention spread after the death of the prophete Mohamed SWS. Assalam aleykoum.
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