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**vipBrooriErok** · 03-25-2011, 09:42 PM

Assalamu alaykum

Just go and tell a lay person who is far from deen "man your islaah is in this following ways"

Then see the reaction.

Brother why not the other way around how many khalifah and their murideen are spending 4 months every year. You must remember that according to you one option is TJ, then why not this option.

So my advice is to leave the lay persons who are brought to masjid from duniya and khwahishaath (desire worship) under the guidance of the TJ, they have good experience is handling them. Sitting in a masjid or a khankaq you will not get that experience.

shukran

While TJ is a prime place to be for a layman, why would you think that a Khanqah or a Masjid or sitting by the feet of some muadhin or imam is not sufficient to start gaining islah. Alhamdulillah I can attest from my own experience that my journey had more to do with individual sittings with imam, his good ikhlaq and guidance than it had to do with TJ.

Unfortunately we didnt enjoy the luxury of Sehroza, Gasht, chilla and Fi Sabeelillahs in the remote area we were in. We did contact Nizamuddin, Local markaz etc etc, but we understood that our place was too remote a job for even TJs at that time. It is only recently that TJ work started there, and that too in a shaby way.. but something better than nothing. This is AFTER one student who left and became maulana at IDA (Ml. Saleem Dhorat) .

There are still such places where other modes of islah aside from TJ are terribly required. The some-what inflexibility of TJ style and routine does not offer laypeople in those area a chance to brighten their future as luminous as some brothers of densely desi populous cities in the west cherish.

Any means of Islah is welcome in those areas, even if it is inefficient, awrad ridden, khilwat appealing sufi khanqah

Mufti Yunus db. once told me that Islah is something you get from Allah. You dont need a vessel for it. All you need it one way sincere willingness.

The question we ought to be pondering over is how to instill this fikar of willingness to be a better muslim among the laymen. The answer in my experience is in numerous ways. You dont need to advertise all of them to a layman, rather the one that may click with him.

03-25-2011, 09:42 PM	#16
vipBrooriErok Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 381 Senior Member	Assalamu alaykum Just go and tell a lay person who is far from deen "man your islaah is in this following ways" Then see the reaction. Brother why not the other way around how many khalifah and their murideen are spending 4 months every year. You must remember that according to you one option is TJ, then why not this option. So my advice is to leave the lay persons who are brought to masjid from duniya and khwahishaath (desire worship) under the guidance of the TJ, they have good experience is handling them. Sitting in a masjid or a khankaq you will not get that experience. shukran While TJ is a prime place to be for a layman, why would you think that a Khanqah or a Masjid or sitting by the feet of some muadhin or imam is not sufficient to start gaining islah. Alhamdulillah I can attest from my own experience that my journey had more to do with individual sittings with imam, his good ikhlaq and guidance than it had to do with TJ. Unfortunately we didnt enjoy the luxury of Sehroza, Gasht, chilla and Fi Sabeelillahs in the remote area we were in. We did contact Nizamuddin, Local markaz etc etc, but we understood that our place was too remote a job for even TJs at that time. It is only recently that TJ work started there, and that too in a shaby way.. but something better than nothing. This is AFTER one student who left and became maulana at IDA (Ml. Saleem Dhorat) . There are still such places where other modes of islah aside from TJ are terribly required. The some-what inflexibility of TJ style and routine does not offer laypeople in those area a chance to brighten their future as luminous as some brothers of densely desi populous cities in the west cherish. Any means of Islah is welcome in those areas, even if it is inefficient, awrad ridden, khilwat appealing sufi khanqah Mufti Yunus db. once told me that Islah is something you get from Allah. You dont need a vessel for it. All you need it one way sincere willingness. The question we ought to be pondering over is how to instill this fikar of willingness to be a better muslim among the laymen. The answer in my experience is in numerous ways. You dont need to advertise all of them to a layman, rather the one that may click with him.
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