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**Penisvergroesserung** · 03-24-2011, 12:42 AM

Assalam Alaikum,

Then you get those new khulafas who get khilafat from someone and they're dying to tell everyone we have khilafat but they pretend as if they are full of tawadhu so they say oh it's hazrat's good opinion of me i'm not worth it. If you are not worth it then why mention it in the first place? Why mention it in forums in the first place?

Some poeple have got this tawadhu instilled in them very very deep, its a sign of the Chistiya that they think themselves to be very inferior. So although to me and you these things are obvious that its being overdone, the person might actually mean it.

Sheikh ul Islam Maulana Madani & Maulana Thanvi had very different ways of tarbiyah. Maulana Thanvi thought that you have to be very stern for islah whereas Maulana Madani was quite the opposite. There are incidents reported of Maulana Madani pressing the feet of visitors and incidents of him not rebuking visitors even when they did wrong.

Maulana Thanvi used to get some ajeeb people attending his khanqah. They used to have strict rules in Thanabhovan. You need to seek permission before coming, if you want to bring a gift you need to ask first etc. These dihatee's can sometimes be very stern too so you need an iron fist to rule them.

A mureed once asked Maulana Thanvi if he could bring something, so Hadhrat said to bring a few pieces of halwa/mithai. Now this mureed comes with big trays (i think it was 3), so Maulana Thanvi rebuked him, he turned around and says these are big pieces. You did say i could bring 3 pieces but not how big.

Another person who wanted to become bayt once came with some sugar so Maulana Thanvi, the latter accepted it. Now later on this person says to Maulana Thanvi make me a mureed, so Maulana Thanvi as per his habit declined (there was rules such as the sheikh needs to see something in you and you need to see something in the sheikh, and that you were comfortable with the teachings etc). So this mureed says give me my sugar back, so Maulana Thanvi says ok, and gets someone to fetch his sugar but it had already been used. Maulana Thanvi had no choice but to accept him

Har aik ki dunya alag hoti hei - Keep husne dhan that maybe these people genuinly think low of them, remember if he is following the sunnah and it is visible to you, and his teaching coincide with the deen of Muhammed Sallalahu Alayhi Wassalm then he could well have a strong dose of tawadhu in him therefore he keeps mentioning his low status. With regards to the others refer it to Allah and that he not make us one of them. Ameen

03-24-2011, 12:42 AM	#7
Penisvergroesserung Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 610 Senior Member	Assalam Alaikum, Then you get those new khulafas who get khilafat from someone and they're dying to tell everyone we have khilafat but they pretend as if they are full of tawadhu so they say oh it's hazrat's good opinion of me i'm not worth it. If you are not worth it then why mention it in the first place? Why mention it in forums in the first place? Some poeple have got this tawadhu instilled in them very very deep, its a sign of the Chistiya that they think themselves to be very inferior. So although to me and you these things are obvious that its being overdone, the person might actually mean it. Sheikh ul Islam Maulana Madani & Maulana Thanvi had very different ways of tarbiyah. Maulana Thanvi thought that you have to be very stern for islah whereas Maulana Madani was quite the opposite. There are incidents reported of Maulana Madani pressing the feet of visitors and incidents of him not rebuking visitors even when they did wrong. Maulana Thanvi used to get some ajeeb people attending his khanqah. They used to have strict rules in Thanabhovan. You need to seek permission before coming, if you want to bring a gift you need to ask first etc. These dihatee's can sometimes be very stern too so you need an iron fist to rule them. A mureed once asked Maulana Thanvi if he could bring something, so Hadhrat said to bring a few pieces of halwa/mithai. Now this mureed comes with big trays (i think it was 3), so Maulana Thanvi rebuked him, he turned around and says these are big pieces. You did say i could bring 3 pieces but not how big. Another person who wanted to become bayt once came with some sugar so Maulana Thanvi, the latter accepted it. Now later on this person says to Maulana Thanvi make me a mureed, so Maulana Thanvi as per his habit declined (there was rules such as the sheikh needs to see something in you and you need to see something in the sheikh, and that you were comfortable with the teachings etc). So this mureed says give me my sugar back, so Maulana Thanvi says ok, and gets someone to fetch his sugar but it had already been used. Maulana Thanvi had no choice but to accept him Har aik ki dunya alag hoti hei - Keep husne dhan that maybe these people genuinly think low of them, remember if he is following the sunnah and it is visible to you, and his teaching coincide with the deen of Muhammed Sallalahu Alayhi Wassalm then he could well have a strong dose of tawadhu in him therefore he keeps mentioning his low status. With regards to the others refer it to Allah and that he not make us one of them. Ameen
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