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**Peabelilt** · 10-09-2012, 09:39 AM

brother i found one thing very interesting here, if you talk about any nation be it arabs ,turk, hindo etc, no body is bothered. But when you talk about Pakistani nation, there is much hue and cry: every ""thekedar" of deen will start shouting at you; i am afraid to understand what can we call it in simple language?

Turks and Arabs are nations as they share the language , blood , cultural background and ethnic basis which are necessary to formulate a nation. Pakistan is composed of various ethnic groups with different languages , cultures and historical background so there is nothing known as Pakistani nation. It is a silly idea that a nation did not exist before 1947 and it came into being after that. Islam was thought to be the gluing force between the various ethnic groups living in Pakistan but the hypocrites to raised the slogans never were sincere in doing that. The binding force between the various ethnic groups of Pakistan is too week to formulate any "Pakistani nation".

Much details can be given but the idea of Pakistani nation is a failed idea. Our primary identity is Islam and instead of focusing on emotional but empty rhetoric of "Pakistanism" , we should focus on our identity as a Muslim who is bound to establish caliphate and become a part of the Muslim Ummah. The slogans of nationalism are an obstacle in the path of Muslim Ummah. See what Iqbal has to say about Nationalism.

Iss Dour Mein Mai Aur Hai, Jaam Aur Hai Jam Aur
Saqi Ne Bina Ki Rawish-e-Lutf-o-Sitam Aur

In this age the wine, the cup, even Jam is different
The cup‐bearer started different ways of grace and tyranny

Muslim Ne Bhi Tameer Kiya Apna Haram Aur
Tehzeeb Ke Azar Ne Tarshawaye Sanam Aur

The Muslim also constructed a different harem of his own
The Azar of civilization made different idols of his own

In Taza Khudaon Mein Bara Sub Se Watan Hai
Jo Pairhan Iss Ka Hai, Woh Mazhab Ka Kafan Hai

Country, is the biggest among these new gods!
What is its shirt is the shroud of Deen (Religion)

Ye But Ke Tarashida-e-Tehzeeb-e-Nawi Hai
Gharatgar-e-Kashana-e-Deen-e-Nabwi Hai

This idol which is the product of the new civilization
Is the plunderer of the structure of the Holy Prophet’s Deen (Religion)

Bazu Tera Touheed Ki Quwwat Se Qawi Hai
Islam Tera Dais Hai, Tu Mustafavi Hai

Your arm is enforced with the strength of the Divine Unity
You are the followers of Mustafa, your country is Islam

Nazzara-e-Dairina Zamane Ko Dikha De
Ae Mustafavi Khak Mein Iss Butt Ko Mila De!

You should show the old panorama to the world
O Mustafaa’s follower! You should destroy this idol

Ho Qaid-e-Maqami To Nateeja Hai Tabahi
Reh Behar Mein Azad-e-Watan Soorat-e-Mahi

The limitation to country results in destruction
Live like the fish in the ocean free from country

Hai Tark-e-Watan Sunnat-e-Mehboob (S.A.W.)-e-Elahi
De Tu Bhi Nabuwwat Ki Sadaqat Pe Gawahi

Renouncing the country is the way of the God’s Beloved (PBUH)
You should also testify to the Prophethood’s Truth by similar action

Guftar-e-Siasat Mein Watan Aur Hi Kuch Hai
Irshad-e-Nabuwwat Mein Watan Aur Hi Kuch Hai

In political parlance country is something different
In Prophet’s command country is something different

Aqwam-e-Jahan Mein Hai Raqabat To Issi Se
Taskheer Hai Maqsood-e-Tajarat To Issi Se

The antagonism among world’s nations is created by this alone
Subjugation as the goal of commerce is created by this alone

Aqwam Mein Makhlooq-e-Khuda Batti Hai Iss Se
Qoumiat-e-Islam Ki Jar Katti Hai Iss Se

God’s creation is unjustly divided among nations by it
The Islamic concept of nationality is uprooted by it

http://iqbalurdu.blogspot.com/2011/0...wataniyat.html

10-09-2012, 09:39 AM	#3
Peabelilt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	brother i found one thing very interesting here, if you talk about any nation be it arabs ,turk, hindo etc, no body is bothered. But when you talk about Pakistani nation, there is much hue and cry: every ""thekedar" of deen will start shouting at you; i am afraid to understand what can we call it in simple language? Turks and Arabs are nations as they share the language , blood , cultural background and ethnic basis which are necessary to formulate a nation. Pakistan is composed of various ethnic groups with different languages , cultures and historical background so there is nothing known as Pakistani nation. It is a silly idea that a nation did not exist before 1947 and it came into being after that. Islam was thought to be the gluing force between the various ethnic groups living in Pakistan but the hypocrites to raised the slogans never were sincere in doing that. The binding force between the various ethnic groups of Pakistan is too week to formulate any "Pakistani nation". Much details can be given but the idea of Pakistani nation is a failed idea. Our primary identity is Islam and instead of focusing on emotional but empty rhetoric of "Pakistanism" , we should focus on our identity as a Muslim who is bound to establish caliphate and become a part of the Muslim Ummah. The slogans of nationalism are an obstacle in the path of Muslim Ummah. See what Iqbal has to say about Nationalism. Iss Dour Mein Mai Aur Hai, Jaam Aur Hai Jam Aur Saqi Ne Bina Ki Rawish-e-Lutf-o-Sitam Aur In this age the wine, the cup, even Jam is different The cup‐bearer started different ways of grace and tyranny Muslim Ne Bhi Tameer Kiya Apna Haram Aur Tehzeeb Ke Azar Ne Tarshawaye Sanam Aur The Muslim also constructed a different harem of his own The Azar of civilization made different idols of his own In Taza Khudaon Mein Bara Sub Se Watan Hai Jo Pairhan Iss Ka Hai, Woh Mazhab Ka Kafan Hai Country, is the biggest among these new gods! What is its shirt is the shroud of Deen (Religion) Ye But Ke Tarashida-e-Tehzeeb-e-Nawi Hai Gharatgar-e-Kashana-e-Deen-e-Nabwi Hai This idol which is the product of the new civilization Is the plunderer of the structure of the Holy Prophet’s Deen (Religion) Bazu Tera Touheed Ki Quwwat Se Qawi Hai Islam Tera Dais Hai, Tu Mustafavi Hai Your arm is enforced with the strength of the Divine Unity You are the followers of Mustafa, your country is Islam Nazzara-e-Dairina Zamane Ko Dikha De Ae Mustafavi Khak Mein Iss Butt Ko Mila De! You should show the old panorama to the world O Mustafaa’s follower! You should destroy this idol Ho Qaid-e-Maqami To Nateeja Hai Tabahi Reh Behar Mein Azad-e-Watan Soorat-e-Mahi The limitation to country results in destruction Live like the fish in the ocean free from country Hai Tark-e-Watan Sunnat-e-Mehboob (S.A.W.)-e-Elahi De Tu Bhi Nabuwwat Ki Sadaqat Pe Gawahi Renouncing the country is the way of the God’s Beloved (PBUH) You should also testify to the Prophethood’s Truth by similar action Guftar-e-Siasat Mein Watan Aur Hi Kuch Hai Irshad-e-Nabuwwat Mein Watan Aur Hi Kuch Hai In political parlance country is something different In Prophet’s command country is something different Aqwam-e-Jahan Mein Hai Raqabat To Issi Se Taskheer Hai Maqsood-e-Tajarat To Issi Se The antagonism among world’s nations is created by this alone Subjugation as the goal of commerce is created by this alone Aqwam Mein Makhlooq-e-Khuda Batti Hai Iss Se Qoumiat-e-Islam Ki Jar Katti Hai Iss Se God’s creation is unjustly divided among nations by it The Islamic concept of nationality is uprooted by it http://iqbalurdu.blogspot.com/2011/0...wataniyat.html
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