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**QysnZWB4** · 03-29-2012, 02:23 AM

I would like to ask the scholars and knowledgable brothers here whether the following four statements are correct regarding the Shafi'i Madhab on the issue of trimming/shaving the beard:

1) Other than solitary opinions, the ruling for shaving is the same as that for trimming.

It seems there is no distinction between shaving and trimming in the Shafi'i madhab. According to the Shafi'i fuqaha, hadiths such as the one regarding Ibn Umar (radhiyallahu anhu) trimming to a fistful, are inadmissible as evidence to override the command to lengthen the beard. These Hadiths were deemed too weak to be used as a concession to the command to grow unrestrictedly. Imam Ghazali's use of such Hadith was refuted by the major Shafi'i fuqaha.

2) The ruling by the majority of fuqaha before and after Imam Nawawi was that the command to lengthen the beard is of the wujoob category, in agreement with the other three Madhabs.

From: http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...14618&CATE=414

"The majority of scholars have understood the above-mentioned hadiths—all of which command Muslims to grow full beards—in their immediately obvious sense, coming to the conclusion that it is unlawful to completely shave the beard. This position has been transmitted from the imam of our school, Imam Shafi`i (may Allah be pleased with him and have mercy on him), and a number of Shafi`i scholars—both early and late—have adopted it as their preferred position. Among the early Shafi`is who held this position are the two great imams, Qaffal al-Shashi and Abu `Abdullah al-Halimi. Among the late Shafi`is who held this position are the two imams, Ibn al-Rif`ah and Shihab al-Adhra`i."

3) There were scholars after Imam Nawawi who adopted taqleed of Imam Shafi'i and the early fuqaha rather than Imam Nawawi on this issue.

"...Among the late Shafi`is who held this position are the two imams, Ibn al-Rif`ah and Shihab al-Adhra`i."

4) Imam Nawawi's ruling regarding shaving is Makruh, but his ruling regarding plucking a few grey hairs is Haram.

http://www.sunnipath.com/library/Hadith/H0004P0297.aspx

Continuing from the above, I have had a number of questions regarding the judgement that the command to lengthen the beard is "merely recommended":

http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...14618&CATE=414
"...the two great verifying scholars of the Shafi`i school, Imam Abul Qasim al-Rafi`i and Imam Abu Zakariyya al-Nawawi—in accordance with the position of Imam Ghazali—have ruled that to keep a full beard is merely recommended"

If Imam Nawawi and Imam Abul Qasim al-Rafi'i gave tarjeeh to a particular Ijtihad, which Mujtahids prior to them, other than Imam Ghazali, made such an Ijtihad?

If it is their own Ijtihad, what Daleel did they produce to override the Ijtihad of Imam Shafi'i, a Mujtahid Mutlaq, and the fuqaha of the Shafi'i Madhab, the majority of whom seem to have agreed that the command to lengthen the beard is Wajib?

In the five centuries prior to Imam Ghazali what was the Mu'tamad ruling of the Madhab?

03-29-2012, 02:23 AM	#13
QysnZWB4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	I would like to ask the scholars and knowledgable brothers here whether the following four statements are correct regarding the Shafi'i Madhab on the issue of trimming/shaving the beard: 1) Other than solitary opinions, the ruling for shaving is the same as that for trimming. It seems there is no distinction between shaving and trimming in the Shafi'i madhab. According to the Shafi'i fuqaha, hadiths such as the one regarding Ibn Umar (radhiyallahu anhu) trimming to a fistful, are inadmissible as evidence to override the command to lengthen the beard. These Hadiths were deemed too weak to be used as a concession to the command to grow unrestrictedly. Imam Ghazali's use of such Hadith was refuted by the major Shafi'i fuqaha. 2) The ruling by the majority of fuqaha before and after Imam Nawawi was that the command to lengthen the beard is of the wujoob category, in agreement with the other three Madhabs. From: http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...14618&CATE=414 "The majority of scholars have understood the above-mentioned hadiths—all of which command Muslims to grow full beards—in their immediately obvious sense, coming to the conclusion that it is unlawful to completely shave the beard. This position has been transmitted from the imam of our school, Imam Shafi`i (may Allah be pleased with him and have mercy on him), and a number of Shafi`i scholars—both early and late—have adopted it as their preferred position. Among the early Shafi`is who held this position are the two great imams, Qaffal al-Shashi and Abu `Abdullah al-Halimi. Among the late Shafi`is who held this position are the two imams, Ibn al-Rif`ah and Shihab al-Adhra`i." 3) There were scholars after Imam Nawawi who adopted taqleed of Imam Shafi'i and the early fuqaha rather than Imam Nawawi on this issue. "...Among the late Shafi`is who held this position are the two imams, Ibn al-Rif`ah and Shihab al-Adhra`i." 4) Imam Nawawi's ruling regarding shaving is Makruh, but his ruling regarding plucking a few grey hairs is Haram. http://www.sunnipath.com/library/Hadith/H0004P0297.aspx Continuing from the above, I have had a number of questions regarding the judgement that the command to lengthen the beard is "merely recommended": http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...14618&CATE=414 "...the two great verifying scholars of the Shafi`i school, Imam Abul Qasim al-Rafi`i and Imam Abu Zakariyya al-Nawawi—in accordance with the position of Imam Ghazali—have ruled that to keep a full beard is merely recommended" If Imam Nawawi and Imam Abul Qasim al-Rafi'i gave tarjeeh to a particular Ijtihad, which Mujtahids prior to them, other than Imam Ghazali, made such an Ijtihad? If it is their own Ijtihad, what Daleel did they produce to override the Ijtihad of Imam Shafi'i, a Mujtahid Mutlaq, and the fuqaha of the Shafi'i Madhab, the majority of whom seem to have agreed that the command to lengthen the beard is Wajib? In the five centuries prior to Imam Ghazali what was the Mu'tamad ruling of the Madhab?
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