Carville is correct in his assessment that people who want to use hatred for the GOP as a main driving force of the Dem party, are pushing the wrong thing. But that's not the Dems' only problem, nor is it even their most important one. Both parties seem to have forgotten that the only landslides that have occurred in Presidential elections in most living memory, happened when one candidate pushed CONSERVATIVE values (tax cuts, strong defense, reducing government, fewer entitlements, more personal responsibility, and opposition to socialist dictatorships abroad), and stuck to them enough that voters believed he meant them. And those candidates were up against opponents who clearly stated that they (the opponents) would implement liberal agendas. And the conservative candidates STOMPED the liberal ones when the votes were counted. Their names were Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon - the only candidates to win by landslide votes in the last few generations. They stuck to most of their platform planks after the elections, but not all. Nixon expanded government with his wage and price controls, and Reagan caved in to Congress's demands for exploding social spending, to save his military buildups and tax cuts, so bang went his promise to balance the budget even though tax revenues went way up after he cut tax rates. But they promised CONSERVATIVE things, and delivered on many of them, and people voted for them in droves. Twice each. Their opponents promised tax increases, entitlements, more regulations and restrictions, and had records of waffling and indecisiveness in defense. And voters shied away. Carville (or Bush and Rove) might want to keep these facts in mind when trying to decide how the Democrat (or Republican) party can attract more votes. Currently neither party is very close to such conservatism. Bush has expanded government (some necessary due to war, but not all), greatly expanded spending, and introduced a new entitlement. Democrats, as usual, are in a completely different universe approaching outright socialism. So I frankly expect the Republicans have less far to go to get to a winning formula, than the Dems do. Whether they will actually do it, remains to be seen.