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**gernica** · 09-26-2012, 02:29 AM

1. I posted links to Apple's forums where people expressed a desire for the technology. Obviously people do care.
2. I linked you to devices that added the technology to existing iphones. Obviously people do want it.
3. I gave you examples of technology that is already included in the new iPhone that would also be categorized as something "they wouldn't care about".

And it's not a ridiculous statement if it's an idea that is commonly used out in the world. You lack of understanding it does not make it ridiculous.

Here is an example. You sometimes see the phrase "never even knew you wanted". It is about offering something new to the customer. I've seen it in advertisements and other places. Here's is an example http://business.financialpost.com/20...ew-you-wanted/. That is the concept behind my statement.

Context

If you don't want to include the parts of the argument that lead up to the statement, then you are quoting me out of context.

When h.264 came out, it took a while for it to catch on, and I would have to say the general public doesn't care about it or even know what it is, yet it is the most predominate codec used in Blu-rays.

Oh Lord, do you really think that a few people on the Apple forum is a good representation of the 200 million (that's a guess) smartphone users in the world? Of course it isn't. What kind of person do you think goes on a forum talking about new features.

As for h.264, it's useful, as I'm sure this new codec you are talking about is, but nobody gave a **** about it specifically. Sure, it was nice when they finally got devices that sold it, but have you ever heard of anyone putting h.264 support on their wishlist outside of the geek squad?

This is the hugest problem here, instead of looking at the overall market, you're basing all of your assumptions on what the geeks want and that is just plain silly.

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Then I will admit I was wrong. I made an assumption that Google did not get anything in exchange for putting this app on the iphone. If Google is getting something out of the investment, then they would not be doing it for free.

You seem thoroughly confused at every level on the business front. Surely you mean that they they would not do it for free if they weren't getting something out of it?

I think what you are trying to say is that Google earning something from maps means that they have not done it for the sake of a free app where they have to carry the cost of the development without return.

The argument Will is making, and myself actually, is that Google saw an opportunity to add value to their business s they have developed an app to take advantage of this.

To be honest, you're so confused with what you mean that it took me several goes at separating it.

EDIT: You're trying to say that they didn't develop the app for free because they can pay their programmers with the income, whereas actually they did develop the app for free to take advantage of a business opportunity.

09-26-2012, 02:29 AM	#31
gernica Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 575 Senior Member	1. I posted links to Apple's forums where people expressed a desire for the technology. Obviously people do care. 2. I linked you to devices that added the technology to existing iphones. Obviously people do want it. 3. I gave you examples of technology that is already included in the new iPhone that would also be categorized as something "they wouldn't care about". And it's not a ridiculous statement if it's an idea that is commonly used out in the world. You lack of understanding it does not make it ridiculous. Here is an example. You sometimes see the phrase "never even knew you wanted". It is about offering something new to the customer. I've seen it in advertisements and other places. Here's is an example http://business.financialpost.com/20...ew-you-wanted/. That is the concept behind my statement. Context If you don't want to include the parts of the argument that lead up to the statement, then you are quoting me out of context. When h.264 came out, it took a while for it to catch on, and I would have to say the general public doesn't care about it or even know what it is, yet it is the most predominate codec used in Blu-rays. Oh Lord, do you really think that a few people on the Apple forum is a good representation of the 200 million (that's a guess) smartphone users in the world? Of course it isn't. What kind of person do you think goes on a forum talking about new features. As for h.264, it's useful, as I'm sure this new codec you are talking about is, but nobody gave a **** about it specifically. Sure, it was nice when they finally got devices that sold it, but have you ever heard of anyone putting h.264 support on their wishlist outside of the geek squad? This is the hugest problem here, instead of looking at the overall market, you're basing all of your assumptions on what the geeks want and that is just plain silly. --- Post Update --- Then I will admit I was wrong. I made an assumption that Google did not get anything in exchange for putting this app on the iphone. If Google is getting something out of the investment, then they would not be doing it for free. You seem thoroughly confused at every level on the business front. Surely you mean that they they would not do it for free if they weren't getting something out of it? I think what you are trying to say is that Google earning something from maps means that they have not done it for the sake of a free app where they have to carry the cost of the development without return. The argument Will is making, and myself actually, is that Google saw an opportunity to add value to their business s they have developed an app to take advantage of this. To be honest, you're so confused with what you mean that it took me several goes at separating it. EDIT: You're trying to say that they didn't develop the app for free because they can pay their programmers with the income, whereas actually they did develop the app for free to take advantage of a business opportunity.
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